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Is there going to be more FF camers?

 
mekd
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Mar 26, 2007 16:50 |  #1

DSLR cameras have come to be so good that the only real advances I can think of is to have more cheaper cameras to be full frame ones.
At least this is my wishful thinking.
What the prediction? I there going to be more FF cameras? And cheaper ones?




  
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Mar 27, 2007 00:25 |  #2

The 1.6 or 1.5 crop cameras more than meet the needs of the majority of DSLR photographers. For people who need more resolution than that the best digital solutions are medium format Hasselblads and Mamiyas. Pentax may also enter this market.

There will always be a compromise market between these two formats for people who need more resolution than the standar digital formats, but can't afford a medium format system. Full frame fits that niche. Of course there will more and better cameras for that market, but it will never be very dominant.




  
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Mar 27, 2007 02:13 |  #3

mekd wrote in post #2934575 (external link)
DSLR cameras have come to be so good that the only real advances I can think of is to have more cheaper cameras to be full frame ones.
At least this is my wishful thinking.
What the prediction? I there going to be more FF cameras? And cheaper ones?

First welcome !!

If you follow a little bit this rumor forum, you will see that the possible schedule for FF bodies from Canon it should be:

Next August/Fall --->> 1Ds MkIII
Next Spring´08 ---->> 5D Mks II ??

Other brands are going to introduce also models, there are many rumors about a Noink D3 with FF at this Fall also. Sony it´s also developing a FF sensor and Sigma too.


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Mar 27, 2007 04:03 as a reply to  @ Juan Zas's post |  #4

I am familiar with the 1S and 5D. Both are excellent, of course.

I wonder whether Canon will bring out new CHEAPER models with FF. I do not agree with the niche policy. When Canon will think about the replacement for the Rebel or 40D the FF feature should be included, otherwise I cant think of major update to the medium priced cameras.




  
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Mar 27, 2007 13:22 as a reply to  @ mekd's post |  #5

Take into account that Canon is competeing primarily against Nikon.

They have to keep costs down to compete in that market. So until Nikon comes out with something to compete even on the pro side with the Canon's 5D or 1DsMkII, Canon probably does not see a need to put out a cheaper FF DSLR then the 5D.

It apparently costs at least 2 if not 4 times as much for the sensor itself to go full frame apparently because of die and platter sizes. So if there is not a market for it they will likely not pursue it. Right now only Pros and advanced amatuers need/want FF cameras and they tend to have the money to spend to get what they need.

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Mar 31, 2007 20:14 as a reply to  @ Longwatcher's post |  #6

I don't see them doing it and personally I hope they don't.

Nikon have steadfastly ignored the FF market. Perhaps that is because they don't want to invest in it or they may just decide that is not a segment that they don't want to chase. In any event, I agree that we won't see lower end FF cameras unless Nikon brings one to the market. Why should Canon dilute there earnings by offering a less expensive camera. Then you would have to reduce your pricing on the crop cameras if you want to maintain a reasonable spread between the cost of the bodies. Those that need a FF camera have 2 choices right now.

I sure hope that Canon doesn't decide to add more bodies to the lineup without taking anything away. I don't see alot of need for more.


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Apr 01, 2007 04:02 |  #7

ScottE wrote in post #2936899 (external link)
The 1.6 or 1.5 crop cameras more than meet the needs of the majority of DSLR photographers. For people who need more resolution than that the best digital solutions are medium format Hasselblads and Mamiyas. Pentax may also enter this market.

As someone who shoots wide more than occasionally I hate the 1.5/1.6 crop. I can just about take the 1.3 crop, but I prefer FF.




  
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Apr 01, 2007 12:03 |  #8

terry44 wrote in post #2964704 (external link)
As someone who shoots wide more than occasionally I hate the 1.5/1.6 crop. I can just about take the 1.3 crop, but I prefer FF.

Having used a 17-40 lens on my film camera and a 10-22 on my digital camera, I don't see any difference. I agree that if you need wider than that, the EF-S camera has a problem, but I have never found it a problem with either film or digital.




  
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