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Apr 03, 2007 12:39 |  #1

hi 5D shooters. Yesterday on an intense photoshoot with 2 models, strobes, makeup artist, time running out, the Canon 5D locked up with the dreaded f 00. It is not mine, I just helped out with the lighting rig for the shooter. The camera was attached with the Canon 28-135mm zoom s 80 f8 before the lockup. I switched to P mode and it was still dead. I turned off the camera and removed the battery for 15 seconds, put it back in and still the camera locked up. I then turned it off again removed the lens and replaced it, turned it on and finally everything was back to normal.

This f00 never happened before so is this something that Canon should check or is it something minimal with the lens ring being tight enough. Any advice from other 5D owners that have had this problem, please let us know

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Apr 03, 2007 12:43 |  #2

I have never had it lock up on me...but sometimes, it could be the lens contacts. Maybe try cleaning those, and retest.

May I ask why whomever was doing the shooting (seems professionally) and using a 28-135 on a 5D? Nothing bad, just curious.


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Apr 03, 2007 12:50 as a reply to  @ inthedeck's post |  #3

I have been saying this for over a year people !! That is why they sell 1 series cameras. They are built for the pro and the pro job.. I will never consider a 5d or 20D built for the pro who needs his gear to perform in a pinch. I would never spend the amount it would take to get a 5D just based on it's reliability. My 20D has given me err 99 on half my big paying shoots which just drives me insane.. When I've rented 1 series bodies, I have never had a problem... If you are doing pro work, run from the 5D unless you have a backup..




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Apr 03, 2007 12:55 |  #4

^^ That's a blanket statement. How do you know it was the camera, and not something else, like the lens contacts? It's not like the shutter of the camera locked up, or the camera would focus and not shoot, etc. The OP mentioned that once he took the lens off, and put it back on, everything was all good...and I assume it was, for the rest of the day.

1-Series cameras aren't the cheapest...especially a FF one. Most people don't have holes burning in their wallets...with cash. The 5D is a FF wonder...even if it's not a 1-series camera.

Not trying to be harsh here, just trying to figure out the facts. I have taken well over 1500 shots with the 5D...and over 200 in burst mode, in the same day. Never have I had the 5D lock up on me.


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Apr 03, 2007 13:13 as a reply to  @ inthedeck's post |  #5

I used to get that quite often with my 350D and my 70-200mm f/2.8L. Never happened much with other lenses, but it did quite a few times with that one. Usually for me, turning off the camera, removing the lens, remounting it and then turning the camera back on fixed it. Still it was annoying.

Mine never happened during shooting though, from what I recall, but rather I would turn the camera on and get that error. It's strange, as my 70-200mm f/2.8L plays VERY nicely with my 5D and presents no such problems.


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Apr 03, 2007 13:17 |  #6

johneric8 wrote in post #2978433 (external link)
I have been saying this for over a year people !! That is why they sell 1 series cameras. They are built for the pro and the pro job.. I will never consider a 5d or 20D built for the pro who needs his gear to perform in a pinch. I would never spend the amount it would take to get a 5D just based on it's reliability. My 20D has given me err 99 on half my big paying shoots which just drives me insane.. When I've rented 1 series bodies, I have never had a problem... If you are doing pro work, run from the 5D unless you have a backup..

What will you say if/when the 1D glitches? Oh and don't tell me a 1D will never glitch. ;) :)


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Apr 03, 2007 13:19 |  #7

I had this happen one time when I was doing a shoot at a snowboarding venue. Turns out my dial was inbetween modes. For example the arrow was inbetween M and AV... that gave me f00. Scared the **** outta me.. I thought the extremely cold weather may have messed things up but everything turned out okay!


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Apr 03, 2007 13:28 |  #8

Yes, to answer a few of your responses. the shooter is a student on scholarship at art center. There was a mention of why she was using the 28-135mm on the 5D? Well, why not, it's great sharp lens when you have a good one and I have one sharp as a tack. We were in a small tight bedroom and she needed as much wide angle coverage, but also different compositions for her assignments and had to change lenses. She also had a Canon 17-35mm I think, a 14mm fisheye, a Canon 100mm macro and a few others. Canon plus Canon should not equal f00 on any body, IMHO. Someone even said get away from the 5D and buy pro series Canons. What's that about? The 5D, IMHO again is certainly a "pro" camera. And I get paid "pro" prices for the fine jewelry images I deliver to my clients using my 10D and 30D with the 28-135mm sometimes, Canon 100mm macro, etc.

Not all students can afford Canon's IDs series that can cost $4-8 grand and the 5D is what her teachers recomended plus a Canon film camera for other assignments. Many of her classmates have 5D and actually the majority of most of the photo students I heard also are buying more Canon products and of course Nikons

Anyway, if the dreaded f00 keeps happening, she will have to drive down to irvine and drop it off to the service center and see what Canon finds out and do their tests. it's under warranty

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Apr 03, 2007 13:30 |  #9

f/00 is what is displayed when contact is lost with the lens. Get an M42 adapter and old screwmount lens and you'll see the same thing.

That's why remounting the lens took care of it. It's random and pretty much unpreventable and NOT a system failure. Sometimes you'll even want to clean the contacts with an eraser.


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Apr 03, 2007 13:31 |  #10

johneric8 wrote in post #2978433 (external link)
I have been saying this for over a year people !! That is why they sell 1 series cameras. They are built for the pro and the pro job.. I will never consider a 5d or 20D built for the pro who needs his gear to perform in a pinch. I would never spend the amount it would take to get a 5D just based on it's reliability. My 20D has given me err 99 on half my big paying shoots which just drives me insane.. When I've rented 1 series bodies, I have never had a problem... If you are doing pro work, run from the 5D unless you have a backup..


I think he may have been talking about the 28-135 and not necessarily the 5D? I would think the 5D would be a great body for that kind of work.

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Apr 03, 2007 13:39 |  #11

It may not be as bulletproof as a 1-series cam, but the 5D seems far from unreliable. As someone stated earlier, it was an issue with the contacts. Pull the lens off with the camera on you'll see it.


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Apr 03, 2007 13:41 |  #12

And that could have been with either the camera or the lens.


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Apr 03, 2007 14:51 |  #13

I've had my 5D for about two months now and have seen the F00 thing once. Yes, it scared the SH** out of me too because the camera is pretty new and I was on vacation. I had been using the camera all day; it was a bit cold outside (maybe 3 degrees celcius); I was using it with the 24-105mm lens. I was shooting in drive mode and the camera just stopped shooting all of a sudden. I wasn't sure and still don't know if it was the lens, the camera or the contact points.

However, I turned the camera off and on, changed the battery and nothing. The only thing that worked was taking the lens off and then remounting it. .


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Apr 03, 2007 15:07 |  #14

Yes, all 5D owners, please post any continual f00 lockups and how you corrected it, what lens and the shooting conditions. I am hoping this situation is not something that will keep happening and if it does, if it is camera related or lens

I imagine the dreaded f00 can happen with any Canon lens combo and not partial to any particular model

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Apr 03, 2007 15:09 |  #15

johneric8 wrote in post #2978433 (external link)
I have been saying this for over a year people !! That is why they sell 1 series cameras. They are built for the pro and the pro job.. I will never consider a 5d or 20D built for the pro who needs his gear to perform in a pinch. I would never spend the amount it would take to get a 5D just based on it's reliability. My 20D has given me err 99 on half my big paying shoots which just drives me insane.. When I've rented 1 series bodies, I have never had a problem... If you are doing pro work, run from the 5D unless you have a backup..

Is this based on your experiences with the 5D? Just wondering. I have never had a problem with the 5D shooting everthing from studio to safari. I will be getting the 1D MkIII when available just because I want it. But I would not take anything for the 5D.


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