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Apr 21, 2007 15:49 |  #16

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There is *nothing* to learn from EXIF data. Its sole purpose is to provide information for the photo owner and for proof of copyright.

A photo can never be duplicated exactly - even if conditions are similar.

I didn't say I was trying to duplicate anything. I was just observing the affect of f/x vs. x shutter speed. To me, that's the best way to learn. I'm a visual learner, the more pictures I can see and compare data to, the better technique I can develop.

P.S.- what color underwear may not have an effect, but the style certainly would! Let's compare a handheld shot wearing boxers vs one with a thong.


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Apr 21, 2007 15:55 |  #17

rhys wrote in post #3080631 (external link)
There is *nothing* to learn from EXIF data. Its sole purpose is to provide information for the photo owner and for proof of copyright.

A photo can never be duplicated exactly - even if conditions are similar.

Obviously you hold a strong opinion. It is my opinion however that it is helpful if I am still learning and would like to know how a particular shot was made.


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Apr 21, 2007 16:17 as a reply to  @ rocklyons's post |  #18

I posted a photo on another forum and now I'm getting responses such as "where's the EXIF"?

Then why is it being tossed about on THIS forum?


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Apr 21, 2007 16:26 |  #19

The lighitng is never the same, neither is the motion,when it exists. but the settings might help a new photographer bettter understand the relationship between all that makes an image what it is. BTW: Nice shot


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Apr 21, 2007 16:37 |  #20

Jon, The Elder wrote in post #3080832 (external link)
Then why is it being tossed about on THIS forum?

Because it annoys me on *every* forum - just like gear lists do.


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Apr 21, 2007 16:58 |  #21

I actually agree with Rhys, the Exif doesn't matter at all. The lighting can almost never been identical so I dont see how it helps knowing the exif. Nice shot though, not great..but nice. Dont want the exif, nothing i wanna duplicate from that picture....lol




  
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Apr 21, 2007 17:42 |  #22

rhys wrote in post #3080411 (external link)
Do real men wear underpants :p

Absolutely! One zipper accident and you're Jewish whether you want to be or not! NOT the recommended way of doing a bris! Oy!




  
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Apr 21, 2007 17:49 |  #23

If I had to sell all my gear tomorrow and could only keep my G6 I would still be taking awesome pictures. Doesn't matter what camera or lenses you have to take a good picture.


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Apr 21, 2007 17:52 |  #24

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If I had to sell all my gear tomorrow and could only keep my G6 I would still be taking awesome pictures. Doesn't matter what camera or lenses you have to take a good picture.

You can't hide your modesty that easy ;) .

I agree, to a degree that it doesn't matter about the camera/lens, but the technique does matter, and that's something you might pick up on from studying EXIF's.


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Apr 21, 2007 18:14 |  #25

20droger wrote in post #3081098 (external link)
Absolutely! One zipper accident and you're Jewish whether you want to be or not! NOT the recommended way of doing a bris! Oy!

Zipper? Real men have a button fly or they wear a kilt :D


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Apr 21, 2007 18:15 |  #26

krazziecliff wrote in post #3080958 (external link)
I actually agree with Rhys, the Exif doesn't matter at all. The lighting can almost never been identical so I dont see how it helps knowing the exif. Nice shot though, not great..but nice. Dont want the exif, nothing i wanna duplicate from that picture....lol

Actually that photo was just a test shot anyway. I wanted to take a slow exposure handheld to see how much the IS helped. The answer was - a lot!


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Apr 21, 2007 18:42 |  #27

Well I am in the boat of the people who learn visually. While you cannot duplicate the picture exactly, you can get a general idea. You can tell if a picture is mid-day, morning, night or dusk, indoor or outdoor you can then see what the EXIF data is and it is a starting point for yourself.

The fact that foums, I believe were meant for the most part for learning and discussion I dont understand why you would be so upset with someone asking information about what YOU posted. It seems rather trivial to me to get upset about such a thing. Same with gear lists, if you dont want to post your gear.....dont, but to be agitated that somone else does seems silly.

Now with that said, I 100% agree that sometimes its nice to look at a great picture for what it is and enjoy it rather that trying to get all the technical mumbo jumbo. Its like driving a beautiful car and having to know the RPM, engine oil temp, transmission temp, tire pressure etc.......Just enjoy the ride.

So now that I argued my point then argued against my own argument :) I see both sides, I understand where you come from, but I also understand the other side as well.


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Apr 21, 2007 18:49 |  #28

T Kubik wrote in post #3081133 (external link)
You can't hide your modesty that easy ;) .

I agree, to a degree that it doesn't matter about the camera/lens, but the technique does matter, and that's something you might pick up on from studying EXIF's.

And thankfully the G6 has RAW :D and i agree.


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Apr 21, 2007 20:37 |  #29

rhys wrote in post #3081212 (external link)
Actually that photo was just a test shot anyway. I wanted to take a slow exposure handheld to see how much the IS helped. The answer was - a lot!

Hmm, wasnt this thread a rant about how gear doesnt matter. Well by ur own admission IS did help you. So the settings n gear does matter, anyway...I like the shot, was just exaggerating to make my point. Exifs dont matter really, its like a bikini, it reveals alot but hides the essentials.




  
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Apr 21, 2007 22:07 |  #30

rhys wrote in post #3080288 (external link)
Nobody asks what size of brush Van Gough used to paint the Mona Lisa.

Maybe that's because Van Gough didn't paint the Mona Lisa...:rolleyes:




  
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