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Ansel adams uses a GND?

 
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Jul 07, 2007 00:57 |  #16

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Don't forget the Zone System. He and his group f/64 really changed the science and art of photography. I was in a Half Price book store in Overland Park, KS a couple of weeks ago and they had The Camera, The Negative and The Print books for about $15 each, and they were in pretty good condition. If I didn't already own them, I would have bought the set.

Interesting! I was in Half-Price Books in Arlington, TX today and saw a set of the three books in mint condition and got the set of all three for $24. Apparently, the previous owner never even thumbed through the pages.


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Jul 07, 2007 01:07 |  #17

I think they are the best three books on B&W photography ever published. When I was using my 4x5 view camera way back when (a pre-WW1 Korona with a pre-WW2 210mm Schneider) I really got into those books, especially The Negative. Before that book, I had only thought of chemistry as a course I needed to graduate from high school.


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Jul 07, 2007 01:21 |  #18

Tony, the Korona is the camera that Ansel used for the Half dome image. Interesting


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Jul 07, 2007 01:23 |  #19

neil_r wrote in post #3499414 (external link)
That wins the understatement of the year award for 2007. The man was a darkroom genius.

He was photoshop before photoshop


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Jul 07, 2007 02:28 |  #20

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You can bet he burned in the upper left corner a bit. The print has detail in most of the snow too. He probably put the sky at zone 4 also.

That was my fist thought but why make it so obvious? The darkened line that covers the sky is not only incomplete on the lower half of the sky, it overlaps quite noticebly on to the rock as well and it's a diagnal line. I am no expect but they could be more accurate and specific with thier burning couldn't they? He spents days in the darkroom perfecting his prints why make it so obvious unless of coarse thats what he meant it too look like but I can't see what it would add to the picture.


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Jul 07, 2007 02:33 |  #21

The image that is shown by the OP is not a very good copy. I had a chance to study an original at an art museum, it was flawless.


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Jul 07, 2007 02:48 |  #22

T.Hogan wrote in post #3501325 (external link)
The image that is shown by the OP is not a very good copy. I had a chance to study an original at an art museum, it was flawless.

Yeah prolly true. It was the best I could find on the net. They don't provide good and big copies on the net for some reason ;)

Still I don't think even the compression and size could add dark areas.


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Jul 07, 2007 08:51 |  #23

T.Hogan wrote in post #3501124 (external link)
Tony, the Korona is the camera that Ansel used for the Half dome image. Interesting

Hmm. I didn't know that. I'm sure I didn't use mine as well as he used his. :) I still have that camera and all the gear to process sheet film, but no 4x5 enlarger.

My understanding of Korona was that there were bought by some company called "Eastman" around 1917 or so.


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Jul 07, 2007 13:34 |  #24

Tony-S wrote in post #3502165 (external link)
Hmm. I didn't know that. I'm sure I didn't use mine as well as he used his. :) I still have that camera and all the gear to process sheet film, but no 4x5 enlarger.

My understanding of Korona was that there were bought by some company called "Eastman" around 1917 or so.

Eastman? Did that company ever do anything else with photography? Or film maybe, you know before the advent of digital. Name sounds familiar.


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Jul 07, 2007 13:56 |  #25

Yes, Eastman Kodak. Just checking to see who knew. :) I take it you did?


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Jul 07, 2007 14:27 |  #26

Oh yea.


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Jul 08, 2007 02:49 |  #27

Tony-S wrote in post #3502165 (external link)
My understanding of Korona was that there were bought by some company called "Eastman" around 1917 or so.

Didn't she marry Paul McCartney ;)


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Jul 08, 2007 14:53 as a reply to  @ neil_r's post |  #28

This image is the first one described in Ansel Adams' book Examples: The Making of 40 Photographs. The original negative was made in 1927, long before graduated ND filters. Adams used the Wratten No. 29 filter on the 61/2X81/2 Korona View camera.

This book, along with Adam's autobiography and the three books in the Ansel Adams' Photography Series (The Camera, The Negative and The Print) give an insightful look into Ansel Adams' career and his photographic philosophy. Great reading for anyone interested in photography. My favorite quote from the book I think resolves the on-going argument of whether Adams would have embraced digital photography and Photoshop:

"I am sure the next step will be the electronic image, and I hope I shall live to see it. I trust that the creative eye will continue to function, whatever technological innovations may develop.'

This was written in 1983 and unfortunately Adams passed away in 1984 at the age of 82.


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Jul 08, 2007 15:05 as a reply to  @ post 3501013 |  #29

When I used to shoot tons of B&W film I used a red filter often for it brought out the clouds from the sky much better.

Ansel Adams mentioned in one of his books I read that he likened a negative as a musical score and the final image produced from the negative as the conductor's interpretation of that score. You can burn and dodge all you want to get different effects in your print but you are still beginning with a master negative.

Adam's relative comparison of photography to music is not to be taken lightly as he was also an exceptional pianist.


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neil_r wrote in post #3499414 (external link)
That wins the understatement of the year award for 2007. The man was a darkroom genius.

I heard he used lightening and darkening "paddles" to affect the print exposure for different areas. And he had written down instructions on where to use which paddles for each print.




  
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