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Jul 17, 2007 22:59 |  #16

Kathy,

When you think about the big picture - a print for ONE 8 x 10 isn't a big deal. If you are charging $1500 for the wedding, even the BEST photo lab doesn't charge over $3.00 for an 8 x 10 (at least to the best of my knowledge). A small investment and I think it would make a huge difference.


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Jul 18, 2007 01:03 |  #17

We have an engagement sitting included in both of our big packages - both of these packages also include a guest book with these images. We will often throw an engagement sitting in to smaller packages for free - but only in-studio sessions. Location shots are a small extra charge - normally $100, if they are booking a wedding we halve it. On the other hand - if it is the thing that clinches the deal, I'll throw it in. I find that customers who want an enagement sitting - even if they want it for free initially - are the same people who will spend money on the photo's once they have seen them. All our sittings also come with a free 8x10.

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Jul 18, 2007 07:09 |  #18

Ok, so I do have some things to think about...

Great discussion...also


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Jul 18, 2007 07:16 |  #19

For anything outside of weddings I charge me "get out of bed price". I think "is it worth getting out of bed for $x profit". Remember what people pay you has to have taxes taken off, expenses, etc.

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When you think about the big picture - a print for ONE 8 x 10 isn't a big deal. If you are charging $1500 for the wedding, even the BEST photo lab doesn't charge over $3.00 for an 8 x 10 (at least to the best of my knowledge). A small investment and I think it would make a huge difference.

You have to get past the print cost price. You're not charging for the paper or ink, you're charging for the years of time and effort you've invested in your art. Sure I can buy an 8x10" print for $3 or so, but the experience to make that print took me five years of my life and I sacrificed potential earnings of $200K/year. What's that 8x10" really worth?


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Jul 18, 2007 08:23 |  #20

Tim, thanks fort he feedback, but I wasn't talking about the print cost being what you are charging for. My reply was one towards Kathy H, as she was talking directly to me when she said her main issue was the fact that she would want to get it printed at a good lab nad her issues with not having it printed at a good lab. I was just stating that the price of getting it printed at a good lab is minimal.


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Jul 18, 2007 11:26 as a reply to  @ post 3564145 |  #21

I charge $100 for an engagement session that lasts about 1.5 hours. Then I give them an online gallery with about 50 color and black and white proofs. Its very common for the couple to include an engagement picture with their wedding invitation. Maybe its a Utah thing.


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Jul 18, 2007 11:40 |  #22

Out of all the wedding invitations I've gotten over the last several years, none had a picture. I do understand that it's the "norm", though. I guess just not around here? :confused:


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Jul 18, 2007 12:00 |  #23

No charge for the engagement session if I'm doing the wedding. It's included in the price. They just pay for the picture(s) they want.


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Jul 18, 2007 12:18 |  #24
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Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #3567001 (external link)
Out of all the wedding invitations I've gotten over the last several years, none had a picture. I do understand that it's the "norm", though. I guess just not around here? :confused:

The couple I booked for Oct. 13th asked about photo invitations, so it would appear it's gaining popularity in this area as well.



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Jul 18, 2007 14:28 |  #25

I see the engagement session as a way to work with the couple and practice with them so you know what to expect on the wedding day. It can help you on the wedding day if you've already worked with the couple and you know each other better and they will be more comfortable with you.

If you want to charge for it maybe just up the price of the package a bit and they they will think it's included even though they are paying for it. For some reason people see the cost as higher if each item has a price. Or they feel nickel and dimed over each little thing. It's a perception thing.


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Jul 18, 2007 14:32 as a reply to  @ liza's post |  #26

Around here it seems like most everyone is including photos in invites and Thank Yous. A lot of mine even ask in advance about the Thank You photos that have the "thank you" sign or letters in their photos while they are still in their wedding dress and tux.

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Jul 18, 2007 16:58 |  #27

Hey Lisa, here is a thought....

Increase your packages by the amount of the engagement session and then offer it as included at no additonal charge with the package. If the client chooses not to have an engagement session then subtract out a protion of the increase or offer extra prints in exchange. That way you don't have to discuss additional fees for something most couple want.


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Jul 19, 2007 00:32 |  #28

Ok, I am getting into the business, as some of you know.

What about if the engagement is on the weekend, is not suppose you should save those dates for weddings?

How do you handle this?




  
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Jul 19, 2007 00:43 |  #29

Jmm7 wrote in post #3571382 (external link)
Ok, I am getting into the business, as some of you know.

What about if the engagement is on the weekend, is not suppose you should save those dates for weddings?

How do you handle this?

Weddings are normally booked quite far in advance, the engagement session a few weeks in advance if that. Just work your engagements into weekends you don't have weddings.

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Jul 19, 2007 01:31 |  #30

thanks Sierra-nova




  
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