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Jul 22, 2007 13:17 |  #1

I'm about to invest in some GND filters, and I'm leaning heavily towards the Hitech 100mm ones. Having read around a bit, I'm now not sure which filter holder I should get, the Cokin Z-pro, or the Lee Foundation Kit - or should I be looking at something else?

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Jul 24, 2007 06:25 |  #2

I've now ordered a set of Hitech grad ND filters, so does anyone have any advice on which is the best holder to buy, Cokin or Lee?

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Jul 24, 2007 11:55 |  #3

I'll provide a bump, as I'm looking at exactly the same thing!


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Jul 25, 2007 12:37 |  #4

Lee filter holder by far. I had (at same time) a Lee filter holder and a Cokin Z holder. Also had a hitech 4x5 soft grad and a Lee 4x6 soft grad. The Cokin Z could hold either grads, but I found it a pain to hold the grads in place with the screw tightener (which also damages the sides of the grads by the way). Putting the grads into the Cokin Z were a pain too. The Cokin Z adaptor ring and holder are made of cheap plastic that I could snap in half with relative ease. The Cokin adaptor ring sort of "attaches" to the lense.

The lee holder was much much better quality. Strong plastic frame with a metal lever pin that pulls out so you can easily attach the adaptor ring to it. The adaptor ring is metal, unlike that cheap plastic Cokin Z one, and scews onto the lense. All you do to hold the grads in the lee filter is just shove them into the slot. The tension holds the grads firm. You can adust the grads by pushin/pulling the ends. Not screws to tighten or loosen like the Cokin Z.

If you can only spent max 140 bucks on a grad system, well, the Cokin Z pro (don't bother with the Cokin P system. It's worthless for any wide or ultra wide angle lenses unless you decide to become michaelangelo with a knife) with the hitech filter will work. It's better than no grad system by far. If it was the only system I tried, I guess I wouldn't complain because I wouldn't know how the other system performed. Having the Lee system to directly compare the Cokin Z system against, really showed how much easier the Lee system was to use.

If you can spare the cash, go with the Lee! You get quality, functionality, extendability (you can add more stuff to lee system) and ease of use.

Also, I found the Lee 4x6 soft 2 stop soft grad far superior to the 4x5 Hitech 2 stop soft grad. The Lee gave, imho (you might find other people who tell you otherwise, but I actually set up a test (on tripod) and took shots with each filter), allowed much better image quality and the pictures were neutral. The hitech grads gave the images a greysih cast. Also, using 4x6 filters makes it MUCH MUCH easier to correctly position the grad and handling of the filters is easier. The cost is, well the monitary price (4x6 are more expensive) and they are harder to store.

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Jul 25, 2007 13:29 as a reply to  @ jjasc's post |  #5

Brilliant, thanks - I've actually ordered the Lee holder, as it's only £6 more expensive than the Cokin Z-Pro, but I got the Hitech because they are £50 cheaper for the NDGrad set - so hopefully they will be better than the Cokin ones even if they are not as good perhaps as the Lee ones.

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Jul 25, 2007 23:50 |  #6

The best filter holder is at the end of your arm---your hand! If camera is mounted on a tripod, just use your hand. A filter holder is a hassle to mount and take off.


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Jul 26, 2007 11:31 as a reply to  @ irishman's post |  #7

I disagree. By holding it against the end of your lens, you scratch the hell out of your filter. It's also more distracting trying to hold the filter while composing AND you also induce camera shake by holding the filter against the lens.

I could care less about scratching a cheapy cokin filter, but a $200 singh-ray (which has a reputation for easily scratching) or a $120 lee one? No thanks!


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