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Aug 07, 2007 18:48 |  #16

No, you've got me wrong, bubba.

I'm not frustrated at all. I'm actually amused by your question. You've posted examples from several sports venues with markedly different needs, and to ask which is the "most used" lens and including all those venues as examples essentially nullifies your question.

You might as well ask a carpenter which is his "most used" tool for building anything from doghouses to decks to stick-built homes.


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Aug 07, 2007 18:51 |  #17

stevefossimages wrote in post #3686939 (external link)
No, you've got me wrong, bubba.

I'm not frustrated at all. I'm actually amused by your question. You've posted examples from several sports venues with markedly different needs, and to ask which is the "most used" lens and including all those venues as examples essentially nullifies your question.

You might as well ask a carpenter which is his "most used" tool for building anything from doghouses to decks to stick-built homes.

Oh geez..."Bubba" :rolleyes: Ok, obviously I asked a stupid question. Although, I'm pretty sure if I asked a guy from Sports Illustrated which lens he uses the most I'm sure he would just give me a blank stare. :confused:


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Aug 07, 2007 19:00 |  #18

Rhilton4u wrote in post #3686953 (external link)
Oh geez..."Bubba" :rolleyes: Ok, obviously I asked a stupid question. Although, I'm pretty sure if I asked a guy from Sports Illustrated which lens he uses the most I'm sure he would just give me a blank stare. :confused:

And if you got a blank stare from an SI photographer you'd probably believe he was frustrated with the question and dismiss him as you've done me. :D

My greater point is this: I don't think the question is without some merit, but the wide variety of lens choices allows the sports photographer, and any photographer, to capture the vast range of subtlety and drama in any given subject. Why do you care which lens is the most used? I can't imagine a photographer working within a subject matter as vast and varied as the sporting world saying "my most-used lens is X" without qualifying that answer so much that it makes moot the question.

And, really, it's all good. We're having a civil discussion, not a fight. And I didn't mean to offend you with the use of the word "bubba," bubba. ;)


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Aug 07, 2007 19:05 |  #19

stevefossimages wrote in post #3687006 (external link)
And if you got a blank stare from an SI photographer you'd probably believe he was frustrated with the question and dismiss him as you've done me. :D

My greater point is this: I don't think the question is without some merit, but the wide variety of lens choices allows the sports photographer, and any photographer, to capture the vast range of subtlety and drama in any given subject. Why do you care which lens is the most used? I can't imagine a photographer working within a subject matter as vast and varied as the sporting world saying "my most-used lens is X" without qualifying that answer so much that it makes moot the question.

And, really, it's all good. We're having a civil discussion, not a fight. And I didn't mean to offend you with the use of the word "bubba," bubba. ;)

Thanks for the kind words. Let me get your point here so I understand you better. If you were talking to a kid who was just starting out as a photographer and knew he was going to cover sports for a local newspaper lets say. He had a limited budget and wanted to buy an L lens for the job and only had enough money to buy one. You couldn't make any type of recommendation to him because the variables are too vast to contemplate?


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Aug 07, 2007 19:16 |  #20

Rhilton4u wrote in post #3687031 (external link)
Thanks for the kind words. Let me get your point here so I understand you better. If you were talking to a kid who was just starting out as a photographer and knew he was going to cover sports for a local newspaper lets say. He had a limited budget and wanted to buy an L lens for the job and only had enough money to buy one. You couldn't make any type of recommendation to him because the variables are too vast to contemplate?

Close, but not quite. Changing your question also changes the answer. While I don't believe there's any meaningful panacea of an answer I can give to your original question, your latest question is easier to work with, and in fact represents adivce I've given more than once to kids in that boat.

I'd ask him what type of sports he'd be shooting, and if he gave me a list as wide-ranging as yours I'd say he can't buy one lens that will do justice to all of them. But then I'd give him the half measure response (no wide angle and no real telephoto to speak of). I'd point him in the direction of the 70-200 f2.8, either IS or non IS, and tell him his next lens purchase after that needed to depend on what he shot the most. Long distance sports such as football/baseball cry out for more focal length, though a 1.4 TC on that lens for outdoor sports give reach without taking too much aperture to compromise shutter speed.

Close-in stuff such as boxing and, to a lesser degree basketball, are asking for the wider angle of the 16-35.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:23 as a reply to  @ stevefossimages's post |  #21

Thanks, I probably just worded the question wrong. If I get your answer right, the 70-200 IS or non IS was the answer I was looking for. I was hoping to get an understanding of the lens most sold and used in sports photography without consideration to cost or specific factors.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:29 |  #22

In case it was overlooked....

https://photography-on-the.net …do=showresults&​pollid=271



  
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Aug 07, 2007 19:34 |  #23

Holy crap that's EXACTLY what I was looking for!
I did (honest) do a search before I started the thread but it didn't come up with this. Thank YOU!


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Aug 07, 2007 19:35 |  #24

Hmm, interesting poll. My go-to outdoors sporting lens is the 100-400, which I've had good luck with even on cloudy days. Not a contender for indoor sports, tho.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:35 |  #25

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holy crap that's EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thanks!

Huh? I took your questions to mean you specified indoor sports. Very different than outdoor sports.

Edit: Looking back, I see you mentioned stadium and arena sports. Stadiums are outdoors, arenas indoors. My bad.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:40 |  #26

stevefossimages wrote in post #3686867 (external link)
If I were a sports photographer I could not call myself such and only choose one lens. There is no "best single sports photography" lens.

That pretty much wraps it up right there.




  
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Aug 07, 2007 19:42 |  #27

Outdoors: 70-200 f/2.8 & 300 F.28

Indoors: 85mm /1.8 & 135 f/2

Those are the ones used most.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:44 |  #28

vetkrazy wrote in post #3687249 (external link)
Outdoors: 70-200 f/2.8 & 300 F.28

Indoors: 85mm /1.8 & 135 f/2

Those are the ones used most.

Thanks, man. Yeah, I guess there is a real distinction between indoor and outdoor use and I worded my question all wrong. Sorry bout the confusion there Stevefossimages.


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Aug 07, 2007 19:49 |  #29

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I'm curious on what is the most used lens on the sidelines and in the camera wells.

For gymnastics and figure skating, both indoor sports with spotty lighting (at best lol) I use 70-200 f/2.8L 90% of the time. If I can get really close at a meet I will use the 50 f/1.8. For skating I often wish I had a 300mm or an extender though.. Some day I will. ;)

My next lens is going to be the 85 f/1.8 or the 135 f/2L, which are both supposed to excel at this from all I have seen!


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Aug 07, 2007 19:51 |  #30

Yep, when you ask your original question to span both indoor and outdoor sports it becomes impossible to answer effectively.

The good news in vetkrazy's answer is that, in decently lit gyms/arenas, the outdoor choices also will work indoors, and both those outdoor lenses he chose will take a 1.4 TC (and the 300 can take a 2x TC) and will deliver good IQ and give them the reach that many outdoor sports require.

And don't mention it, man (I almost said "bubba"). Glad to be the one to help you refine your question. :D

After all, I've been an editor for 14 years, longer than I've been a photographer, so I still sometimes focus too narrowly on the meaning of the word.


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