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Aug 20, 2007 23:58 |  #1

Has anyone used this? Just want to get feedback and quick opinions about this plugin. TIA.


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Aug 21, 2007 00:47 |  #2

I used a trial version and loved it... I should have purchased it, but I was being cheap and bought the Kodak Digital Gem instead... same sort of thing, just not as many bells and whistles... But it was about $100 cheaper... so....

Download the trial and test it out.. :)

Whichever you choose, do it on a separate layer and that gives more control over how much to apply.. It sure saves time when working on an entire batch of stuff... :)


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Aug 21, 2007 03:34 |  #3

Any one got a link to the plug in? please?


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Aug 21, 2007 04:24 |  #4

dawnrogers wrote in post #3765931 (external link)
Any one got a link to the plug in? please?

Here's a link to their site (just go to downloads).

http://www.imagenomic.​com/pt.aspx (external link)

Very nice plugin, have it myself.


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Aug 21, 2007 04:29 |  #5

Thanks, it looks really good.....do you use it much? Do youknow if you can download it on to a laptop as well...for instance I bought Proshow Gold and that allows 2 downloads to computers owned by you.


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Aug 21, 2007 04:37 |  #6

dawnrogers wrote in post #3766056 (external link)
Thanks, it looks really good.....do you use it much?

To be perfectly honest, not really anymore. I did at first but after I started to follow certain tutorials on here (POTN) i.e. Mizuno's tutorial plus others, I try and 'retouch' myself.


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Aug 21, 2007 05:33 |  #7

I ahve to say, I'mnot a fan of over touching portraits...prefer the as natural as possible approach so not really sure if I'd use this or not....I've book marked in case I decide I really do need it...


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Aug 21, 2007 12:09 |  #8

For the whole thing it costs $265. That's a lot of bread for a 8mb download which does 3 things. Noise reduction, Grain and the best part is the portraiture plugin.

Noise Reduction - Works great, not as good as Noise Ninja however. since it does not remove noise based on your camera's profile matrix at certain ISO's. But it is customizable with sliders.

Grain - has a few templates of different types of film (how quaint j/k remember those) it gets close to accurately mimicking the grain from film stocks such as AGFA, Fujitsu, Kodak, etc. at varying ISO.

Portraiture - This is where the rubber meets the pavement. If you like or can get what you like from the results as I did, it will save you hours of airbrushing and sharpening, etc. I still had to use either Lightroom or Lightzone to 'fix' the hue and sat a bit, but for the most part it does a great job. It will not over do the skin smoothing, I notice that albeit it lightens moles, it will not remove it but it will remove pimples. I think it goes by the range of colors based on skin tones and evens it out. Moles are darker so it doesn't 'see' it for the most part. It works very well as many have stated.

I can not justify the $265 for the package though, however, I would recommend buying the portraiture plugin per se. $169.00 it is still a bit on the expensive side, but if you are making money with your photos, then it maybe well worth it. But then again, if you are making money, the results may not be to your liking or worse the client's liking. It does leave the skin tone a bit soft, but you can change parameters to vary this effect. There are presets for Low, Med, High smoothing, "glamour', hi/lo key. All these presets are customizable as well. So maybe, even professionally you can come up with a reasonable result.

I would recommend a beefy system to use this with Photoshop CS3. No less than 2 GB (but remember XP stops caching RAM at 2GB so you don't really want to go overboard) a dual core processor or a beefy single core.


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Aug 21, 2007 13:35 |  #9

00silvergt wrote in post #3765313 (external link)
Has anyone used this? Just want to get feedback and quick opinions about this plugin. TIA.

IMHO - It's a must for every portrait photog.

I posted many examples of 2 mouse clicks (1 second) workups.

Buy it and don't look back ;)




  
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Aug 21, 2007 13:39 |  #10

LOL Read ^ your post...I did ;)


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Aug 21, 2007 13:40 |  #11

00silvergt wrote in post #3768747 (external link)
LOL Read ^ your post...I did ;)

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Aug 21, 2007 14:31 |  #12

As an alternative, there's Portrait Professional (external link) for $65. I'm not sure how well it does against Imagenomic Portraiture, but Portrait Professional can warp the face to make it look my symmetrical. It can smooth skin, but I haven't' really played around with that to know if it's good or not. You can download the trial (external link) and try it yourself.

You can do this with Photoshop as well and it does an excellent job keeping the skin's texture if you use the proper method. As you may already know, It's more work but offers more control.

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Aug 21, 2007 14:44 |  #13

The problem with Portrait Professional is that you need to upload your picture to their server. This then supposedly calculates what changes are needed and then implements them. I think it is some sort of ingenius copy protection, if you have to upload the pictures, it can assure you have a legitimate copy, :) which is fine since it is only $65 and they have to protect their intellectual property, but looking at some of the results, it doesn't appear to be on par with the Portraiture plugin. Then there's the whole upload thing. What happens, if or when they go out of business...?? May not be a big deal since unfortunately software life is less than 4 years nowadays anyway.


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Aug 24, 2007 22:48 |  #14

00silvergt wrote in post #3768145 (external link)
For the whole thing it costs $265. That's a lot of bread for a 8mb download which does 3 things. Noise reduction, Grain and the best part is the portraiture plugin.

Noise Reduction - Works great, not as good as Noise Ninja however. since it does not remove noise based on your camera's profile matrix at certain ISO's. But it is customizable with sliders.

I assume you're talking about Imaginomic's Noiseware, and not just the NR that Portraiture does? Man, I have to disagree. I tried and tried Noise Ninja, and while I could usually eventually get the results I wanted, it took much more time than Noiseware. I had the camera profiles and everything. Noise Ninja seemed to always over-blur details; it was hard to get adequate NR without losing noticeable details. Noiseware, for me, does a better job of both reducing noise AND keeping detail.

I haven't tried Neat Image, but between Noise Ninja and Noiseware, I vote Noiseware all the way!




  
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Aug 27, 2007 12:25 |  #15

Stearmandriver wrote in post #3792221 (external link)
I assume you're talking about Imaginomic's Noiseware, and not just the NR that Portraiture does? Man, I have to disagree. I tried and tried Noise Ninja, and while I could usually eventually get the results I wanted, it took much more time than Noiseware. I had the camera profiles and everything. Noise Ninja seemed to always over-blur details; it was hard to get adequate NR without losing noticeable details. Noiseware, for me, does a better job of both reducing noise AND keeping detail.

I haven't tried Neat Image, but between Noise Ninja and Noiseware, I vote Noiseware all the way!

Glad to hear you have success with Noiseware. I found that it softened my image way too much. I have the profiles for both my 30Dand XT at all ISO's, so I just run those and I get great results from Noise Ninja. Doesn't really matter I have both proggies, so whichever will give me the right result is what I will use for each specific image. ;)


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