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Sep 16, 2007 17:31 |  #1

My question, which is basically, "which lens to use" has a slightly different twist.

I am only permitted to shoot from the bleachers. The floor is reserved for photographers that "officially" cover the meet, so my vantage point is limited.

Camera will be MKIII.

Lenses available for use are: 300 f/2.8, 135mm f/2.0, 70-200 f/2.8, 85 f/1.8

Any thoughts on which of the above lenses would be the "best" gymnastics lens?

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Sep 16, 2007 17:48 |  #2

stefeb wrote in post #3942884 (external link)
My question, which is basically, "which lens to use" has a slightly different twist.

I am only permitted to shoot from the bleachers. The floor is reserved for photographers that "officially" cover the meet, so my vantage point is limited.

Camera will be MKIII.

Lenses available for use are: 300 f/2.8, 135mm f/2.0, 70-200 f/2.8, 85 f/1.8

Any thoughts on which of the above lenses would be the "best" gymnastics lens?

To provide a qualified recommendation, one would need to know the camera-to-subject distance(s) you expect to encounter plus an estimation of the lighting levels involved.

The type of lighting could also be a significant factor. If the lighting is fluorescent lighting with line-frequency ballasts (as opposed to high-frequency ballasts) or a similar gas-discharge lighting that changes its intensity and color twice per power-line cycle, there are some very significant limitations for photography.

Assuming you run into the fluorescent light problem, do you know if you would be permitted to use flash? If so, what flash resource(s) do you have available?


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Sep 16, 2007 19:06 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #3

Most gyms are poorly lit for photography, but I have had a good amount of success using my 70-200 f/2.8 lens when shooting my daughter's meets. If you're a bit farther away in a bleacher area, the 85mm may not be long enough. the 300 2.8 or the 135 f/2 may be better unless you can get close enough for the 85.


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Sep 16, 2007 20:24 as a reply to  @ nhbeast's post |  #4

Steve,

The 70-200/2.8 is an excellent gymnastics lens, if you've got enough light. My daughters compete in some gyms that are light enough to use it, and many other local, private, and club gyms where it is simply too dark to use it. The 85 is a little too short, unless you have floor access. I reallly like the 135/2, and am using it more and more all the time. Hope this helps!


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Sep 16, 2007 20:27 |  #5

I have shot several times on the floor, most meets are poorly lit, and really offer no help in getting a good white balance from the get go, with open windows and sometimes sodium lights in the gym.

Go for the fastest lenses you can get. F/2.8, at 1600 usually does pretty well. If you shooting from the bleachers, your 300 might do well for you also.


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Sep 16, 2007 21:04 |  #6

The gyms I shoot in get me ISO 1600 f2.8 @ 1/250th. It does a good job of freezing action but you still get some blur on the feet every once in a while. Depending on your distance, I'd take the 135 f2 (great for the light) and then bring the 70-200 just in case you need the little extra reach.


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Sep 16, 2007 21:46 |  #7

Bring all three lenses. I have used a mono pod while seated in gym bleachers. Good luck.


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Sep 17, 2007 00:06 |  #8

stefeb wrote in post #3942884 (external link)
My question, which is basically, "which lens to use" has a slightly different twist.

OK, don't tell me I'm the only one who caught the pun here...

I am only permitted to shoot from the bleachers. The floor is reserved for photographers that "officially" cover the meet, so my vantage point is limited.

Until you know the lighting and the distance, it's tough to say. But I suspect that 70-200 will be the front-runner. Can you get down to the gym to see where you'll be sitting and to get an exposure reading? Also, you'll need to determine how distant each exercise is that your kid will do.


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Sep 17, 2007 00:29 |  #9

aside from the 200/1.8, you probably have the 3 best lens for indoor sport, 300/2.8 for far away, 135/2 for medium, 85/1.8 for close. 70-200/2.8 is good all-arounder for when the gym is pretty well lit.

i think you are pretty much all set.


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Sep 17, 2007 00:34 |  #10

i suggest you go for 70-200 and 135. if it's too close or too far for the 135, you'll have a backup, and if not use the 135 exclusively. also, iso3200 or even 6400 will come in handy here, so don't fret some high numbers


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Sep 17, 2007 14:00 |  #11

SkipD wrote in post #3942963 (external link)
To provide a qualified recommendation, one would need to know the camera-to-subject distance(s) you expect to encounter plus an estimation of the lighting levels involved.

The type of lighting could also be a significant factor. If the lighting is fluorescent lighting with line-frequency ballasts (as opposed to high-frequency ballasts) or a similar gas-discharge lighting that changes its intensity and color twice per power-line cycle, there are some very significant limitations for photography.

Assuming you run into the fluorescent light problem, do you know if you would be permitted to use flash? If so, what flash resource(s) do you have available?

1. Have no idea of the type of lighting.
2. Bleachers about 10' from floor. I was thinking on getting on the top row, about 20 up from the floor.
3. No flash allowed.


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Sep 17, 2007 14:06 |  #12

CelticRavenVA wrote in post #3943914 (external link)
I have shot several times on the floor, most meets are poorly lit, and really offer no help in getting a good white balance from the get go, with open windows and sometimes sodium lights in the gym.

Go for the fastest lenses you can get. F/2.8, at 1600 usually does pretty well. If you shooting from the bleachers, your 300 might do well for you also.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'll be able to shoot at ISO 3200, with low/moderate noise, and can go up to 6400, but will be using Noise Ninja for sure.

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The gyms I shoot in get me ISO 1600 f2.8 @ 1/250th. It does a good job of freezing action but you still get some blur on the feet every once in a while. Depending on your distance, I'd take the 135 f2 (great for the light) and then bring the 70-200 just in case you need the little extra reach.

Thanks. The two you mentioned were in the top three lenses.

Tapeman wrote in post #3944496 (external link)
Bring all three lenses. I have used a mono pod while seated in gym bleachers. Good luck.

I may just do that. At least I'd look like a pro ;).

Tony-S wrote in post #3945341 (external link)
OK, don't tell me I'm the only one who caught the pun here...

Until you know the lighting and the distance, it's tough to say. But I suspect that 70-200 will be the front-runner. Can you get down to the gym to see where you'll be sitting and to get an exposure reading? Also, you'll need to determine how distant each exercise is that your kid will do.

That's a great suggestion. I'm sure I can go to one of my grandaughter's practice sessions. Of course, that will provide me the lighting for her gym, the away meets will be a crap shoot.

jmpsmash wrote in post #3945411 (external link)
aside from the 200/1.8, you probably have the 3 best lens for indoor sport, 300/2.8 for far away, 135/2 for medium, 85/1.8 for close. 70-200/2.8 is good all-arounder for when the gym is pretty well lit.

i think you are pretty much all set.

Thanks, I'll just bring all three. There problem solved. ;)

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i suggest you go for 70-200 and 135. if it's too close or too far for the 135, you'll have a backup, and if not use the 135 exclusively. also, iso3200 or even 6400 will come in handy here, so don't fret some high numbers

Thanks. I'm grateful to have the high ISO if needed.


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Sep 17, 2007 14:14 |  #13

I bet you will find that the 70-200 2.8 will just barely be long enough.

When you say "available" lenses, are those the lenses you have, or are going to rent. IF you have all of them (then I hate you....LOL...just kidding) I would take them all and try all different positions...


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Sep 17, 2007 14:16 |  #14

Sorry, you posted at teh same time as I did and basically answered my questions...

Have fun, those are some nice lenses!


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135 f/2 - this will help you keep your ISO's low. I take it you will use it on a crop camera.


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