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Sep 20, 2007 19:27 |  #46

Learn & Grow wrote in post #3971593 (external link)
Isn't it interesting how you jump to judge people for their abilities.

To clarify your curiosity, there is no "doctoring" of the image other than resizing and framing (for this wonderful website). To help you learn, a polarizing filter was used to eliminate any glare.

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tomd wrote in post #3974241 (external link)
When did the OP say that?

This is essentially where he said it..

i can't believe we're being TOLD to leave this alone. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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Sep 20, 2007 19:32 |  #47

theague wrote in post #3974268 (external link)
This is essentially where he said it..

i can't believe we're being TOLD to leave this alone. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I completely agree. I can't believe we aren't allowed to question the authenticity of a very questionable photograph with no explanation.

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Sep 20, 2007 19:33 |  #48

The moon's apparent motion is about a full-moon's width every 2 minutes so in 8 seconds it will move by 1/15 of its diameter. I already admire the shot so could you let me "learn" how you managed to avoid the apparent motion of the moon while keeping the city so sharp?


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Sep 20, 2007 19:53 as a reply to  @ tiktaalik's post |  #49

theague wrote in post #3974268 (external link)
This is essentially where he said it..

i can't believe we're being TOLD to leave this alone. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Stime187 wrote in post #3974305 (external link)
I completely agree. I can't believe we aren't allowed to question the authenticity of a very questionable photograph with no explanation.

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Once the OP stated he did not manipulate the photo, you are not allowed to badger him just because you disagree. If you can keep the conversation polite and not throw out accusations over & over again, I would not have gotten involved here at all.
Please re-read the forum rules about how to conduct yourselves here.


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Sep 20, 2007 19:59 |  #50

theague wrote in post #3974268 (external link)
This is essentially where he said it..

thanks, I didn't go that far back.

I like the picture.


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Sep 20, 2007 19:59 |  #51

Stime187 wrote in post #3974305 (external link)
I completely agree. I can't believe we aren't allowed to question the authenticity of a very questionable photograph with no explanation.

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That's not your place to do here.


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Sep 20, 2007 20:16 |  #52

tiktaalik wrote in post #3974319 (external link)
The moon's apparent motion is about a full-moon's width every 2 minutes so in 8 seconds it will move by 1/15 of its diameter. I already admire the shot so could you let me "learn" how you managed to avoid the apparent motion of the moon while keeping the city so sharp?

I'd be interested in learning that myself.

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Sep 20, 2007 20:26 |  #53

I went and read some of the rules...

quote wrote:
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RULE #1 Have fun!
Rule #s 2-5 See Rule Number 1!!!

6. Though we encourage members to engage in healthy debate, we do not condone personal attacks on members. Ideas can be disputed or challenged, but attacks on a personal level are unacceptable and when they are discovered or brought to the attention of the staff, will be dealt with accordingly. Ideas can be attacked, but individuals cannot.

So apparently it is our place to question according to Pekka... No one here has attacked him personally or his family or his dog...


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Sep 20, 2007 20:35 |  #54

kenyc wrote in post #3974625 (external link)
I'd be interested in learning that myself.

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Sep 20, 2007 20:41 |  #55

theague wrote in post #3974680 (external link)
I went and read some of the rules...

So apparently it is our place to question according to Pekka... No one here has attacked him personally or his family or his dog...

I guess the real question is whether questioning the authenticity is a personal attack or not. I tend to believe not, but if the OP insists it IS authentic then questioning that could be construed to be an attack. I feel however that part of critiquing an image is to critique it's authenticity if that is in doubt. Certainly there is nothing wrong with manipulating images, but it definitely rubs me the wrong way for a manipulated image to be presented as genuine. I think this is particularly true in the Travel and Landscapes forum (certainly moreso than in the Experimental forum).

In any case I see nothing wrong with saying the image looks manipulated and leaving it at that. Continued "badgering" though is not really all right and is certainly not a debate in the sense of the forum guidelines.

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Sep 20, 2007 20:43 |  #56

Stime187 wrote in post #3974731 (external link)
There is nothing to learn. Its impossible.

Please let the OP answer that, if you don't mind.

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Sep 20, 2007 22:21 |  #57

This has been an amazing thread :)

This is what I have found on moon movement (external link) Pretty tough to pull off an 8 sec shot.

For further learning could we have a little more info from the EXIF data? time? date? etc.?


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Sep 20, 2007 22:37 |  #58

Ummm why not link to the original raw file? Because i'd surely love to see it. And the OP can prove his point. I am also on the boat that this is doctored. And what city is this in? Perhaps there are other photos out there with moons as big as this?




  
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Sep 20, 2007 23:00 |  #59

kenyc wrote in post #3974769 (external link)
I guess the real question is whether questioning the authenticity is a personal attack or not. I tend to believe not, but if the OP insists it IS authentic then questioning that could be construed to be an attack. I feel however that part of critiquing an image is to critique it's authenticity if that is in doubt. Certainly there is nothing wrong with manipulating images, but it definitely rubs me the wrong way for a manipulated image to be presented as genuine. I think this is particularly true in the Travel and Landscapes forum (certainly moreso than in the Experimental forum).

In any case I see nothing wrong with saying the image looks manipulated and leaving it at that. Continued "badgering" though is not really all right and is certainly not a debate in the sense of the forum guidelines.

KAC

KAC, you have summed up my feelings on the matter precisely and concisely. :)


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Sep 20, 2007 23:08 |  #60
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How did this thread become so off-the-topic beats me. But then it is not my job to change skeptics. Your perception is your belief. Deal with it but also be aware that others may excel you.

As for me, I am not here to argue my point but to learn (and exhibit) what I think is a passion for photography.

P.S.: Following Maureen's guidline, this thread is over as far as I am concerned. For the record, it has been stated earlier the image has been resized and framed but not "doctored".




  
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