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why cant i get wide angle distortion like this?

 
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Oct 09, 2007 21:08 |  #1

hey guys

to further my automotive photography, i recently picked up a tokina 12-24. i have seen a lot of pics where the front end of a car is accented with the lens, while the back is small and stretched.

here is an example of what i am talking about:

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granted, the angles arent exactly the same, im trying to figure out what im doing wrong. why cant i achieve a simliar effect?

the only thing i can think of in the example picture i posted, is that the car was actually located on the bottom corner of the frame, then it was cropped so the distortion is more pronounced. other than that, i cant think of any other reason... is it because of the whole difference between the 12mm and 10mm?

someone enlighten me :D

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Oct 09, 2007 21:09 |  #2

You have to get closer.


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Oct 09, 2007 21:11 |  #3

Yep. And that's really all there is to it.


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Oct 09, 2007 21:15 as a reply to  @ Lord_Malone's post |  #4

you do look quite a ways back. go ahead. take a step forward. it won't bite =) keep up posted.


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Oct 09, 2007 21:19 |  #5

Yes, get lower and closer.

The effect you speak of may also have been "Photoshop-induced". Especially being such a dark picture, PP would be less conspicuous.

You can create similar effects in post-processing (here is a crop of your example with literally 1 minute of PP (spherize + warp))


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Oct 09, 2007 21:20 |  #6

cdifoto wrote in post #4097140 (external link)
You have to get closer.

Indeed, both closer and lower.

And I suspect the vertical perspective in the BMW image was a little exaggerated in postprocessing.
It seems a bit steep to me - but it might as wel be 'real'.




  
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Oct 09, 2007 21:27 |  #7

I agree....lower and closer...get low enough that you have to tilt the camera upwards. Don't leave any room for cropping...if you're cropping you're losing out on wide angle distortion.




  
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Oct 09, 2007 21:57 |  #8

I've got some up close wide shots of a hummer that I took recently on my hard drive at the office. I'll post it up here tomorrow morning. The great thing about that UWA lens is the ability to take advantage of the minimum close focusing distance which allows you to get within mere inches of your subject and get it all in the frame.


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Oct 09, 2007 22:16 |  #9

thanks for the info guys, ill see how much of a difference i get when i get closer :P i got a supra to shoot on friday.

lord_malone - im looking forward to your post :)


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Oct 09, 2007 22:38 |  #10

yeah - i'd love to see that hummer shot as well. there's a couple of hummers parked in front of the hotel where i'm staying at here in florida and i'd like to try my hands on it. altho i'm only using a 16-35..but what the heck. i dont get to see hummers often in the UK. lol


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Oct 09, 2007 22:56 as a reply to  @ muscleflex's post |  #11

You need bigger wheels and lower aspect-ratio tires! :evil:


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Oct 09, 2007 23:16 |  #12

As jra mentioned, "shoot up" to take advantage of wide angle distortion compositionally and keep your lense level to minimized it. This technique is outlined in John Shaws Landscape Photography.


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Oct 09, 2007 23:26 |  #13

e r y k wrote in post #4097514 (external link)
thanks for the info guys, ill see how much of a difference i get when i get closer :P i got a supra to shoot on friday.

lord_malone - im looking forward to your post :)

Yes, you've received the right answer.

Just tried my 17/55, and I can get the end of the lens within 10 inches of the subject and be in focus.

But if you do that, even at 17 mm, all you'll get is a good closeup of the bumper.:lol:


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Oct 10, 2007 00:06 as a reply to  @ Glenn NK's post |  #14

Don't mind the IQ, or the junk in my garage, or the scratch on the bumper, or...

12mm

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Oct 10, 2007 01:02 |  #15

i dont think its a matter of focal length at 12mm vs 10mm since at that range you are only getting more coverage on the outside edges of the frame. i think the 12 vs 10 debate comes in when shooting something like landscapes.


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