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Silly question: Why is it called "Mark"?

 
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Oct 18, 2007 06:22 |  #16

xarqi wrote in post #4146011 (external link)
Yeah, but how and when did "mark" become a synonym for "revision"?

I can't be certain on that, but I'd hazard a guess that it's either a simple truncation of "Benchmark" or from the idea that you "mark" a milestone or achievement.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Mark_%28designa​tion%29 (external link)


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Oct 18, 2007 06:24 |  #17

maybe the MK stands for "Make" and the whole "Mark" thing is just a bad dream...


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Oct 18, 2007 06:25 |  #18

The concept of Mark meaning version has more of a military history than anything else.
It was later adopted by technology companies, car companies, mfg companies etc. (like IBM and Canon) to do the same as it was intended to do with military products, designate a model change within a class or between classes.

The Sten was a machine gun, there was the Mark I through Mark IV . Each was a supposed (and real) improvement upon the previous version.


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Oct 18, 2007 06:27 |  #19

SOT wrote in post #4145764 (external link)
What's really interesting is in some instances, like Jaguars, the numbers are sort of out of sequence. The Jaguar Mk V came before the Mk Iv.

Jaguar also use another word to denote this same sort of thing - type. As in S-Type. E-Type etc.




  
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Oct 18, 2007 06:28 |  #20

Roy Mathers wrote in post #4146052 (external link)
Jaguar also use another word to denote this same sort of thing - type. As in S-Type. E-Type etc.

I thought that was more of a trim designation than a version....


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Oct 18, 2007 06:32 |  #21

That is why that wiki is sometimes bad, they use a very very poor example of how the thing came about. The M16 for example was never a MARK Mk series, it was an A advancement series, A1, A2, A3. The M in M16 is Military, as the AR (Armalite Rifle) was in version 15 and then 16 when adopted by the military.One adopted by the military the version change was designated as A1, A2 A3 etc.

cdifoto wrote in post #4146038 (external link)
I can't be certain on that, but I'd hazard a guess that it's either a simple truncation of "Benchmark" or from the idea that you "mark" a milestone or achievement.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Mark_%28designa​tion%29 (external link)


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Oct 18, 2007 06:34 |  #22

xarqi wrote in post #4145992 (external link)
Stranger things have happened. "Mercedes" was named after the daughter of one of the founders of the Daimler company!

Most older car labels are from real names of the owners or their relatives. Alfa Romeo was named by Nicola Romeo who bought the factory in 1915 (Alfa = Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili). And Ferrari was named by Enzo Ferrari etc, Porsche by Ferdinand Porsche, Lamborghini by Ferrucio Lamborghini etc. :)


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Oct 18, 2007 06:34 |  #23

Wikipedia is very often to be taken with a pinch of salt;)




  
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Oct 18, 2007 06:36 |  #24

Pekka wrote in post #4146075 (external link)
Most older car labels are from real names of the owners or their relatives. Alfa Romeo was named by Nicola Romeo who bought the factory in 1915 (Alfa = Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili). And Ferrari was named by Enzo Ferrari etc, Porsche by Ferdinand Porsche, Lamborghini by Ferrucio Lamborghini etc. :)

Don't forget the Ford Edsel:)




  
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Oct 18, 2007 06:36 |  #25

Roy Mathers wrote in post #4146076 (external link)
Wikipedia is very often to be taken with a pinch of salt;)

It's perfectly legit when the articles back up what I'm saying. :)


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Oct 18, 2007 06:37 |  #26

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Don't forget the Ford Edsel:)

Edsel must have been an ugly girl too.


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Oct 18, 2007 06:37 |  #27

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It's perfectly legit when the articles back up what I'm saying. :)

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Oct 18, 2007 06:52 |  #28

simwells wrote in post #4145703 (external link)
Hehe, it's not called Mark persay, it's just it's easier to differentiate from the other models by saying it's the mark II rather than just II (a bit like issue II or similar)

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Oct 18, 2007 07:09 as a reply to  @ EOS Man's post |  #29

Since Canon comes from Japan, don't forget the Toyota Mark II. It was derived from the Corona in the late 60's or early 70's, but then it became a model on its own.

And newer generations continue to be called "Mark II". There is no "Mark III", "Mark IV", etc.


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Oct 18, 2007 09:17 |  #30

:lol:We could use Microsoft notation and call it 1D 2007.:lol: That always works in terms of marketing upgrades.


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