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Talk me out of selling my Canon 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS for a 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM

 
St. ­ Germain
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Oct 24, 2007 16:46 |  #1

Love these forums, but everytime I come here I find a new lens that I want to buy. I was just looking through a great thread about lenses to take to Disney World as we have a trip coming up in November and the 17-55 is looking like a great upgrade and choice for the trip.

At least convince me it's a real pain in the ass to sell a well-taken care of lens or something. :confused:


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Oct 24, 2007 16:47 |  #2

Don't sell it because you don't really want to!


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Oct 24, 2007 17:09 |  #3

St. Germain wrote in post #4184813 (external link)
Love these forums, but everytime I come here I find a new lens that I want to buy. I was just looking through a great thread about lenses to take to Disney World as we have a trip coming up in November and the 17-55 is looking like a great upgrade and choice for the trip.

At least convince me it's a real pain in the ass to sell a well-taken care of lens or something. :confused:

For travel, Disney, snap shots, I think think 17-85IS will be a better choice, mainly because of its size, weight, range and flare-resistence. You can use this lens without a hood.

The 17-55IS's main advantage is F2.8 and low distortion. I would say the IQ improvement is secondary. It is good, but 17-85IS is not bad either.

The main disadvantage of 17-55IS here is its flare issue, although it is not as bad as the rumor suggest, it is there. You really need to use the hood with it, and it makes this combo huge compare to 17-85IS.

The 17-85 is just a lot more convinient for your case.

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Oct 24, 2007 17:17 |  #4

I just sold my 17-85...

And I love my 17-55

Oops, shouldn't have posted


Some bodies. Some primes. Some zooms. Same as everyone else.

  
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Oct 24, 2007 17:20 |  #5

The 17-85 IS is a cheap average IQ consumer lens IMO and the 17-55 IS is an expensive cheap looking consumer lens that at least takes decent pictures ;-)a


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Oct 25, 2007 12:16 |  #6

Crisp images, sharp definition, detailed large aperture shots, fast focus and L quality... BUT you will miss the extra reach of your 17-85 and the 17-55 is significantly heavier and more expensive.
Of course you will come back from Disney thinking what would those pics looked like if I had a 17-55 :-) Is there anything you arent happy about with your 17-85? I guess you might think the f/4-5.6 aperture is limiting, certainly you will get nicer shallow DOF and bokeh from the f/2.8, the focusing will be quicker and the IS is probably a stop better... BUT you will be a lot more concious of protecting that new lens and it might distract your enjoyment from the trip... where as perhaps the 17-85 you can relax a bit more when bumping into the zillions of visitors!


  
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Oct 25, 2007 12:52 |  #7

I have no experience with the 17-85, but I do own the 17-55mm. Its a fantastically sharp and overall great performer fo me. Ifear it might be too short though, so I have a 24-105mm f/4 coming in the mail. I know that doesn't help you...sorry.

All I can say is that wide open, the 17-55mm rocks it!


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Oct 25, 2007 12:57 |  #8

17-85 has smaller size and weight, 5x zoom, and good sharpness.


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Oct 25, 2007 13:20 as a reply to  @ bufferbure1's post |  #9

Sell it. I made the swap with mine and the only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.




  
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Oct 25, 2007 13:33 |  #10

I suspect you'll be outdoors most of the time, which means you don't really need the 2.8, but will need that extra reach on the long end of your 17-85. And for a vacation to Disney World, I suspect the IQ of the 17-85 will work just fine.

But if you're tempted, you might try renting the 17-55 for the duration of the vacation.




  
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Oct 25, 2007 13:36 |  #11

condyk wrote in post #4185022 (external link)
The 17-85 IS is a cheap average IQ consumer lens IMO and the 17-55 IS is an expensive cheap looking consumer lens that at least takes decent pictures ;-)a

Don't sugar coat it Dave. Tell us what you REALLY think!!;)


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Oct 25, 2007 14:10 as a reply to  @ Az2Africa's post |  #12

With the same $500, you can sell your 400D and get the 40D! :evil:


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Oct 25, 2007 14:13 as a reply to  @ Az2Africa's post |  #13

Thanks for the replies all. I am worried a bit about the weight of the 17-55 and the flare problem people are reporting with night photos. I will be taking most my photos outdoors and hopefully some at night. So I was thinking that the 2.8 might help at night, but I'm not sure I'm experienced enough to work around any flare issues while I'm in the midst of shooting. I was hoping my 50mm f/1.4 would get by ok at night with my legs for zoom.

I did think about renting the 17-55 but I'd need it for two weeks and if I'm going to spend money, I guess I'd rather put it towards a purchase.


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Oct 25, 2007 14:14 |  #14

rkkwan wrote in post #4190477 (external link)
With the same $500, you can sell your 400D and get the 40D! :evil:

Sigh...evil...I'm not sure I'm at the point yet where it would matter having the better body though. :)


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Oct 25, 2007 14:21 as a reply to  @ Az2Africa's post |  #15

The 17-85 is a great lens in many aspects: it's light, it has IS, it has a good range of focal lengths, good image quality (not quite L, but at f/8 and f/11 it's very good).

The main negative point of the lens is it's distortion; however, in many situations this really isn't even a problem and any problems you do have can be mostly fixed in PP.

Lots of people not familar with the lens write it off as a bad lens because of the reviews it has recieved in regards to distortion. IMO the possitives far outweigh the negatives in this instance; however, the results of this all is that the going price for a used 17-85 is fairly low and they take longer to sell.

My advice is to keep the lens (it's a good lens), buy some lenses outside the 17-85 focal length range for you next few purchases, and then pick up the 17-55 later if you still want the lens and don't think you will ever go full frame.


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