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Blue ­ Deuce
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Oct 26, 2007 03:01 |  #1

I looked through a couple of other posts regarding which lens to use at air shows and no mention was made of the 500 f/4. Most were recommending the 100-400. Is there a reason why there is no mention of the 500 ? I hand hold it for BIF and the quality is consistently beyond anything I have ever gotten from the zoom. I just want to take one body and lens to the upcoming space expo I am attending.




  
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Oct 26, 2007 03:33 |  #2

I have seen a lot of people at airshows with the 500 ,I use the 300f2.8Lis and am very happy with it,:D


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Oct 26, 2007 03:57 as a reply to  @ malla1962's post |  #3

One of the major reasons for 100-400 is for the flexibility and length. IQ wise, it definitely doesn't beat a 500 prime, but it gives you the option to zoom in and out, which can be important when you want to frame formation shots. Of course, that depends on how close you are to the planes. Also, I find hand holding the zoom for 4 hours is tiring enough (you really do need to hand hold if you want all the angles), much less a 500mm. I was in the crowd for Fleet Week, so even with a 100-400, I had to be very careful not to whack anyone in the head with my lens when I try to track the planes. A kind old man had to duck twice because I got a bit caught up chasing the jets... so again, a 500mm in that situation would just make it all the harder.


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Oct 26, 2007 04:34 |  #4

At a guess, its a case that there are more 100-400 owners than 500... :)




  
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Oct 26, 2007 05:31 |  #5

I see a lot of 100-400 users at air shows. I use my 70-200 2.8 and get some nice results. I am doing some pretty extreme crops but the image quality of that lens allows it. You can check out some of my shots in the links below if you like. My opinion but I don't think you will get as many low altitude pass shots with anything over 300mm.

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Oct 26, 2007 06:23 |  #6

Thanks for the help. I like the aspect of flexibility that the zoom affords in this instance. My main reservation is it's lack of speed in focusing compared to the prime.




  
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Oct 26, 2007 06:46 as a reply to  @ Blue Deuce's post |  #7

I don't mis my 100-400 for airshows but what does bother me is it trying to get my 300f2.8 to florida next year for the air and sea show;)


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Oct 26, 2007 08:17 |  #8

Blue Deuce wrote in post #4194472 (external link)
Thanks for the help. I like the aspect of flexibility that the zoom affords in this instance. My main reservation is it's lack of speed in focusing compared to the prime.

No problems with focus speed on the 1-4. Like above, it's all about the flexibility.

That said, I went to 3 air shows this year with my 1-4. And every time, I wish it was longer for 50% of my shots. I'd probably miss IS, but a big-mama would be even better than the 1-4. If you want great shots, of single plans, and you're willing to give up formation shots, the 500 would be a fantastic air show lens. Not sure which I'd take if I owned both.

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Oct 26, 2007 08:30 as a reply to  @ JC4's post |  #9

Blue Deuce wrote in post #4194472 (external link)
Thanks for the help. I like the aspect of flexibility that the zoom affords in this instance. My main reservation is it's lack of speed in focusing compared to the prime.

I rented the 100-400 a few weeks ago for the Pope AFB Air Show. It was worth every penny! IMO the 500 only would seriously limit the shots you could take. Using the Rebel XT I had very few focus issues with the 100-400. Out of 812 shots I deleted about 10 for focus problems!

I doubt you could get some of the formation shots with a 500.

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And then there is the runway shots which are rather close.

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Oct 26, 2007 11:18 |  #10

mxwphoto wrote in post #4194159 (external link)
One of the major reasons for 100-400 is for the flexibility and length. IQ wise, it definitely doesn't beat a 500 prime, but it gives you the option to zoom in and out, which can be important when you want to frame formation shots. Of course, that depends on how close you are to the planes. Also, I find hand holding the zoom for 4 hours is tiring enough (you really do need to hand hold if you want all the angles), much less a 500mm. I was in the crowd for Fleet Week, so even with a 100-400, I had to be very careful not to whack anyone in the head with my lens when I try to track the planes. A kind old man had to duck twice because I got a bit caught up chasing the jets... so again, a 500mm in that situation would just make it all the harder.

Hi, are you from SD, CA?
Where abouts were you? There was a group of us shooting just west of the last chalet in the "blanket" area.
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Oct 26, 2007 11:23 |  #11

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The rest of my processed shots are here (external link).

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I loved the shots - especially the one of the F-16 going through the shock cloud (2007_10_06__MG_4026_W​eb.jpg)! :cool:

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Oct 26, 2007 11:58 as a reply to  @ thebigphil's post |  #12

I recently shot the USAF Thuderbirds in Atlantic City with a 70-200 and 1.4x TC. 90% of the time I was at the long end of the lens or just shy of it. A 100-400 without TC would have worked very well but I think that anything longer, much less, a longer prime would absolutely make it impossible to shoot. There were times that I had to pull back to have the various stunts and multi-plane shots all in frame, so I know that if I had a 300mm prime (or longer) it just woudn't have cut it.


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Oct 26, 2007 12:04 as a reply to  @ TMR Design's post |  #13

300 f/2.8... This will be my next lens... :lol:


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Oct 26, 2007 12:14 |  #14

TMR Design wrote in post #4196196 (external link)
I recently shot the USAF Thuderbirds in Atlantic City with a 70-200 and 1.4x TC. 90% of the time I was at the long end of the lens or just shy of it. A 100-400 without TC would have worked very well but I think that anything longer, much less, a longer prime would absolutely make it impossible to shoot. There were times that I had to pull back to have the various stunts and multi-plane shots all in frame, so I know that if I had a 300mm prime (or longer) it just woudn't have cut it.

That may be the case on a 1.6 crop body but what about a 1.3 or full frame?;)


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Oct 26, 2007 12:17 |  #15

malla1962 wrote in post #4196287 (external link)
That may be the case on a 1.6 crop body but what about a 1.3 or full frame?;)


Good point! With the 1.3x crop, obviously there is a small difference. With full frame, big difference :D


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