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Dec 08, 2007 12:20 as a reply to  @ post 4463900 |  #226

Randy,

I know that we both use opanda but I cannot get the exif from these. How did you do that?




  
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Dec 08, 2007 13:34 |  #227

GBRandy wrote in post #4463900 (external link)
You have the right lenses. I own that 85mm and it is killer lens....having said that, what focus mode were you using during competition? To me it looks like your focus stopped about three feet in front of the gymnasts face in your second shot. Make sure you use AI Servo and keep the AF point on the gymnasts face....you can get creative on crops during PP.

I am using center point focus and AI servo. I will keep trying and thank you for the welcome.

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Dec 08, 2007 16:41 |  #228

fugfuggy wrote in post #4463994 (external link)
Randy,

I know that we both use opanda but I cannot get the exif from these. How did you do that?

right click with opanda worked for me.


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Dec 08, 2007 19:15 |  #229

Thanks guys....the squirt has some goofy knees. Maybe dislocated is the wrong term...but it essentially falls apart if she lands wrong...the knee cap slides to one side and the whole knee just pops a part...I have had to personally "snap' her knee cap back in place a couple of times.....it is not a pretty picture (pun intended ) It looks and sounds extremely painful...been to numerous specialists an no real answers yet.

I have the same issue. My kneecap runs a J pattern movement and under a moderate side load it slides off and falls around the back. It hurts like hell, but EMTs (or me when I'm alone and desperate) can slip it back around the front just pushing it around (this hurts even worse). I've had it blow out 6 or 7 times in my 34 years. The only good news is that there is no real damage and one can resume normal activity in 24-48 hours.

My personal solution? I started commuting to work on my bike. I ride 125 miles per week just to work and back. The muscles and ligaments holding the kneecap are much stronger and stiffer and the knee is thus more resistant to the dislocation.

There are also braces with velcro side pushers that can hold the knee on during sports.


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Dec 08, 2007 20:29 |  #230

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I have the same issue. My kneecap runs a J pattern movement and under a moderate side load it slides off and falls around the back. It hurts like hell, but EMTs (or me when I'm alone and desperate) can slip it back around the front just pushing it around (this hurts even worse). I've had it blow out 6 or 7 times in my 34 years. The only good news is that there is no real damage and one can resume normal activity in 24-48 hours.

My personal solution? I started commuting to work on my bike. I ride 125 miles per week just to work and back. The muscles and ligaments holding the kneecap are much stronger and stiffer and the knee is thus more resistant to the dislocation.

There are also braces with velcro side pushers that can hold the knee on during sports.

My daughter is 14 and has had it "pop" at least 10 times. Having to put it back seems worse than having it slide off....I hate having to do it...

I am sorry to hear you have the same issue. It has never happened to me. Her knee puffs up pretty good and the recovery period has averaged 2 weeks or more....

The docs are trying to avoid braces as they want to see normal development instead of supported fixes...I am OK with that..

Biking as a solution is a brilliant idea....we start tomorrow (well indoor anyway...it's really cold here :) )


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Dec 08, 2007 20:31 |  #231

fugfuggy wrote in post #4463994 (external link)
Randy,

I know that we both use opanda but I cannot get the exif from these. How did you do that?

Works for me on the Mac & the PC....Right click should get you there...PM me if you still have issues....we'll make it work.


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Dec 08, 2007 20:43 |  #232

Biking as a solution is a brilliant idea....we start tomorrow (well indoor anyway...it's really cold here )

I ride year round. I run studded tires in the winter.

But overall, yes, the answer is to have stronger quadraceps muscles. They hold the kneecap on.

Fundamentally my problem is that the groove that the cap runs in is shallow. Holding it down harder with stronger muscles is the only answer.

Sorry to hear your girl gets some inflamation. I was always surprised that something that hurt so bad (I've thrown up putting it back together from the pain) was usually fine again after a day or two.


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Dec 10, 2007 08:28 as a reply to  @ JeffreyG's post |  #233

RE EXIF. I can't get Opanda to work consistently any more with Firefox so I download the plugin from the Mozilla Firefox web site.

One more thing RE your flash picture of the awards. I suspect that you were also shooting in automatic mode with your flash and thus the 1/60 synch speed. Upgrade your flash to 430ex or better and start flashing at 1/200. Not sure if you can do that with the built in flash. If you can, do it. It will help with some of the camera movement issues.

Welcome to the forum and I look forward to see your work as you get more experience with your new camera.


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Dec 10, 2007 09:23 |  #234

I was actually in Av mode holding the lens at 2.8. I thought that may have been the issue, as well. If the only time I plan to use flash is at these awards or at home, what flash would you recommend?




  
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Dec 10, 2007 11:42 |  #235

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I was actually in Av mode holding the lens at 2.8. I thought that may have been the issue, as well. If the only time I plan to use flash is at these awards or at home, what flash would you recommend?

a 430 should suit you fine....the expense and finer points of the 580 would be an overkill for you now....


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Dec 10, 2007 13:37 as a reply to  @ GBRandy's post |  #236

My daughter had her first Level 5 meet this weekend. She did pretty well for her first L5 meet, she finished 6th in the AA. Here are a couple of shots I took. Haven't gotten through all of them yet though. C&C is always welcome. Thanks!


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Dec 10, 2007 15:49 |  #237

Nice....setting and camera please.....


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Dec 10, 2007 18:14 |  #238

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Nice....setting and camera please.....

Thanks! Both were taken with the 30D. First pic (bars) was using the 70-200mm lens at f2.8, 1/250th, ISO 1600. The 2nd was taken with the 85mm f/1.8 lens set at f2/5, 1/250th, ISO 800. Both were cropped and edited a bit in CS3, mainly just brightened a little and some USM.

I have some more I will post a few soon.


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Dec 10, 2007 20:49 |  #239

Thanks! Both were taken with the 30D. First pic (bars) was using the 70-200mm lens at f2.8, 1/250th, ISO 1600. The 2nd was taken with the 85mm f/1.8 lens set at f2/5, 1/250th, ISO 800. Both were cropped and edited a bit in CS3, mainly just brightened a little and some USM.

I have some more I will post a few soon.

Nice pics. You were blessed with good light.

I just shot my nephew (level 5 going to 6) last weekend and for 1/250 I was at f/2 and 3200. It would have been nice to have the additional two stops of light that you had there.


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Dec 11, 2007 07:13 |  #240

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Thanks! Both were taken with the 30D. First pic (bars) was using the 70-200mm lens at f2.8, 1/250th, ISO 1600. The 2nd was taken with the 85mm f/1.8 lens set at f2/5, 1/250th, ISO 800. Both were cropped and edited a bit in CS3, mainly just brightened a little and some USM.

I have some more I will post a few soon.

1/250th...welcome to my nightmare. That also explains the softness. You will need 1/500 or better to routinely capture crisp shots. In some cases higher.

Did you use any noise reduction? If not will need to look into some noise reduction software to tidy these up a bit...you can use DPP that came with your camera...or Noise Ninja, Neat Image, Bibble Pro, and others are also out there.

One last nit...and it is a hold over from my days of running the college photo staff....when you crop, please level the picture, What I mean is make the lines in the background match the frame. Having them "tilted" gives the image a very, well, "snapshot' feel to it....if you know what I mean?

That explaions the softnes.


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