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Dec 24, 2007 20:11 |  #16

Hermeto wrote in post #4564600 (external link)
Exactly!
It is genuinely designed to be used with manual focusing, this is just kind of work around.

i played with a 40D last night at circuit city and it was pretty nice feeling, felt as big as my 5D, I didn't care for how the menu is navigated tho. The live view was novel, especially with the grid lines


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Dec 24, 2007 20:15 |  #17
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Despite all wrong expectations people might have about Live View, that is a nice feature on a nice camera.
If you know what you’re doing, it can be useful in many ways.


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Dec 24, 2007 20:18 |  #18

Ya know folks, your really complaining about something that was fully disclosed in all of the online and available documentation.

This is like buying a Ford Taurus and getting upset that the cruise control only operates the accelerator, dag nabbit you want your auto pilot!


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Dec 24, 2007 20:21 |  #19

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Ya know folks, your really complaining about something that was fully disclosed in all of the online and available documentation.

This is like buying a Ford Taurus and getting upset that the cruise control only operates the accelerator, dag nabbit you want your auto pilot!

i wasn't complaining, just sayin it's mostly useless, which is what i thought when i first heard you can't AF with it.


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Dec 24, 2007 20:53 |  #20

If you haven't used this with macro shots or if you don't even have a 40D or Mark III, any arguments you might make about live view "being useless" is therefore about as useless.

Not only during macros is this useful. If you have your camera on a tripod such that you have the height where you want it perpendicular to the portrait area (which for those of us vertically challenged probably means you might have to have the camera in an awkward height to use the viewfinder well), you can use live view to compose your shot, assuming you already have the focus locked, and your aperture high to get a deep DOF. As you have folks shuffling in and out of the "photo zone", all you have to do is enable live view, compose the shot, then take it. Works great.


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Dec 24, 2007 21:01 |  #21

I remember way back in the day when electronics manufacturers, Canon included, would bundle a user manual with their hardware. Oh, for those halcyon days...


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Dec 24, 2007 22:04 |  #22

Useless is a very strong don't you think. Remember the 40D is not designed to be a P&S.


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Dec 24, 2007 22:35 |  #23

I've been using a viewfinder for so long that I haven't even tried the live view.


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Dec 24, 2007 22:40 |  #24

Its extremely helpful and almost necessary in certain circumstances.
I find it to be an amazing feature to have. Albeit i use the viewfinder 98% of the time, the other 2% would not turn out half as good without live view.


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Dec 24, 2007 23:22 as a reply to  @ Cristnotchrist's post |  #25

I’ve hooked mine to the lap with live view and got some incredibly crisp night shots. Can even focus remotely. I’d say it works very well.


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Dec 25, 2007 00:07 |  #26

I used it to see over a crowed at an outdoor Christmas choir. Simply turn to live view, raise the camera over all the big heads, focus with your CF.n and shoot. People then saw me lifting up the camera and to my astonishment, the seas began to part. They thought I was from the paper or something and beckoned me to the front row. That is one advantage to these cameras often taken for granted!


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Dec 25, 2007 01:00 |  #27

I use it as a quick mirror lockup. And it's much better than the ordinary MLU since I can still see the image while the mirror is up.


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Dec 25, 2007 01:01 |  #28

TitusvilleSurfer wrote in post #4565338 (external link)
Simply turn to live view, raise the camera over all the big heads, focus with your CF.n and shoot.

I do this too ;)


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Dec 25, 2007 01:10 |  #29

you can do do an exposure mock too with it...its in the Cf.n menu...pretty cool


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Dec 25, 2007 02:47 |  #30

Well, as others had pointed out, it wasn't hidden.
Looking at your signature, your investments in canon lenses is not that big, so if you really need that feature, you could switch systems and get the nikon d300, without a severe financial penalty (besides the d300 higher price tag of course).
Both systems are very good.
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Is it just me or did most other people who bought the new 40d

become shocked and dissopointed to learn that the "live view" option is somewhat useless?

Well, to me it is, as - you can not auto focus in live view, you have to manually focus on the subject.

Amazing, its just 2nd rate now in my opinion.

Anyone else bothered by this?

The only good i can see in it is you have a tripod set up and you are doinga large group shot for example and you know your focus will almost be fixed

and if you need to refocus you have to put on "manual" on the actual lens or
you have to take live view "off" and then refocus normally, then reactivate live view.


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