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EF-S 17-55 on 1D Mark III - Jean Claude van Dame and MIB have their doubts

 
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Jan 19, 2008 11:00 |  #1

not sure if this belongs here or in lens section, if not apropriate, please - move.

here is my story, i hope someone finds it interesting (english is not my native, so please do not bare with me on grammar and spelling!):

recently got myself 1D Mark III, and now i am in a state for which best description would be somthing like "whoaaaa!... clakt. clakt. clakt. whoaaaa!!!". (duck shots - soon!)

previously used 350D, with wonderful EF-S 17-55 attached to it. (i belive i will not sell that little camera ever, sentimental value cannot be measured in money)

i knew very well my 17-55 will not work on Mark III.

or would it? well, i just had to try. there are two main problems - 1) EF-S mount goes deeper into body of camera than EF, and Canon have put extra ridge so one could not mount the lens on wrong camera, and 2) even if i manage to mount the lens, i would seriously risk damaging mirror by hitting rear element, which prodtrudes more than rear element of EF lens.
wel, i kinda solved both: 1) managed to remove that plastic piece that seals rear end of lens (yes i know - dust - but this is just a test run), so i can mount lens EF-S lens on 1D body, 2) i checked at which zoom rear lens protrudes more than on my EF 50 1.4 and measured how much does barrel came out. then i cut some paper mildly adhesive paper tape (used for sealing cracks in windows) in a pieces that are little bit wider than that upper border and wraped that around extending barrel - so that at it'a widest lens now can be 29mm.

well, it works. sort of. picture of how the thing looks mounted and taped in picture bellow:

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picture of EF-S 17-55 without rear plastic piece:
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picture of rear plastic piece (used a small screwdriver to poke right between that piece of plastic which holds the contacts and rearpiece - and kinda nice-and-easy flip-floped it out):
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and there is picture of some posters i have on my wall (don't ask why i still have them there, i do not remember, it was long time ago i put them up, 10 years or somthing), picture taken with bounced flash:
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looks like Jean Coloude is not quite happy and MIB are very, very reserved (for being in extreme border, i belive).
100% crop of lower left corner:
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to sum this all up: well i must say i got pretty much what i expected - vingeting and black corners. sure i can crop and postprocess, but i am doubtfull i will use this lens/body combination very much. it can be done, it (kinda) works. but you'll be more happy with EF 24-70 or EF 24-105 (and have a reason to get one, i know i do).

thanks for reading, i hope it was worth your time. i will try my best to answer your questions, if you have any.

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Jan 19, 2008 11:44 |  #2

and why you go far? instead of using EF-s 17-55 on this camera i can use EF 17-40and not have any vignetting at all, or if i want little wider 1mm then 16-35 all the way, i can use even my sigma 12-24 without vignetting, so there are many choice than using EF-s for 1-series or FF.


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Jan 19, 2008 11:53 |  #3

main reason is curiosity, i guess.

17-40 is F4 (16-35 is F2.8, i know) - 17-55 is F2.8 and has IS, to which i have got used.
as i said, i will not be using this combo much.


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Jan 19, 2008 12:09 |  #4

yeah, it would be nice if canon made a standard zoom EF lens with IS for full frame bodies.


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Jan 19, 2008 12:41 |  #5

Wish if Canon made a zoom lens for full frame say 10-100mm f2.8 IS.


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Jan 19, 2008 12:58 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #6

What's the point here? Seems like a waste of time and the potential destruction of a perfectly good lens for marginal results...


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Jan 19, 2008 13:02 |  #7

JWright wrote in post #4736795 (external link)
What's the point here? Seems like a waste of time and the potential destruction of a perfectly good lens for marginal results...

Agree & why risk damaging equipment... Canon do state EF-S lens do not work on 1 series so why, why, why.....


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Jan 19, 2008 13:04 |  #8

uh huh.
i'm sory i bothered you. won't do that again.


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Jan 19, 2008 13:14 as a reply to  @ the_monochrome's post |  #9

Well I for one say kudos to your curiosity and ingenuity. Maybe the end result wasn't quite worth it, but if it wasn't for people pulling things to bits to try and get them to work in different ways for the sake of it then things like the digital camera wouldn't have been invented.


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Jan 19, 2008 13:17 |  #10

wordsworth03 wrote in post #4736554 (external link)
yeah, it would be nice if canon made a standard zoom EF lens with IS for full frame bodies.

They do. The 24-105L.


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Jan 19, 2008 13:17 |  #11

thanks, timmyeatchips.


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Jan 19, 2008 13:22 |  #12

Nice PowerBook/MacBook Pro :)


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Jan 19, 2008 13:28 |  #13

the_monochrome wrote in post #4736831 (external link)
uh huh.
i'm sory i bothered you. won't do that again.

:lol:

Don't worry about the guys who always say "Careful! You might break it!".

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Jan 19, 2008 13:31 |  #14

it's noisy 1st gen Macbook Pro, and it (he?) is a bit dirty, as you can see :)


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Jan 19, 2008 13:41 |  #15

Tareq wrote in post #4736702 (external link)
Wish if Canon made a zoom lens for full frame say 10-100mm f2.8 IS.

10mm on a full frame? The photographer would be in every photo.:)


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