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Jan 23, 2008 05:38 |  #1

I found that I have to up the brightness on a few pictures when getting printed or they come out too dark on paper. They look ok on the computer screen.
I figure that the picture is lit itself on the computer screen yet is being lit externally on the paper so you get the loss of brightness.
Anyway to predict the printed brightness?


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Jan 23, 2008 05:44 |  #2

Get your monitor calibrated.


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Jan 23, 2008 05:50 |  #3

If it is a matter of that couldn't I just turn down the contrast/brightness to match?
I thought a calibrated was more to do with colour?


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Jan 23, 2008 06:07 as a reply to  @ PG07's post |  #4

Something quick to try is check your printer preferences and see if it has an option to set the brightness/contrast levels manually.


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Jan 23, 2008 06:19 |  #5

Canonymous wrote in post #4762545 (external link)
Something quick to try is check your printer preferences and see if it has an option to set the brightness/contrast levels manually.

Sorry I didn't make it clear I don't use my printer.
I get my prints printed by a couple of different labs.Don't get me wrong most of my pics are ok but some that look really good on the screen come out too dark and if I really like the picture have to re-edit it to be brighter usually in curves.


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Jan 23, 2008 06:51 |  #6

PG07 wrote in post #4762566 (external link)
Sorry I didn't make it clear I don't use my printer.
I get my prints printed by a couple of different labs.Don't get me wrong most of my pics are ok but some that look really good on the screen come out too dark and if I really like the picture have to re-edit it to be brighter usually in curves.

Have you got PhotoShop or Lightroom? If so, you have Adobe Gamma where you can do a crude calibration of your monitor. Alternativly, get a Spyder or similar tool to calibrate it. That way, your prints should always be correct.


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Jan 23, 2008 06:54 |  #7

sando wrote in post #4762653 (external link)
Have you got PhotoShop or Lightroom? If so, you have Adobe Gamma where you can do a crude calibration of your monitor. Alternativly, get a Spyder or similar tool to calibrate it. That way, your prints should always be correct.

Thanks for that I have Photoshop :)


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Jan 23, 2008 06:56 |  #8

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Jan 23, 2008 08:43 |  #9

That is a problem with LCD screens. The backlight is stronger then the conventional CRT monitor of past. Most of the time when I do print or have prints made I will up the brightness to compensate.

You have had prints made, you might want to turn the brightness down on your monitor to match your prints. But most people like the brighter output that a LCD gives them.


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Jan 23, 2008 16:34 |  #10

PG07 wrote in post #4762502 (external link)
If it is a matter of that couldn't I just turn down the contrast/brightness to match?
I thought a calibrated was more to do with colour?

Strictly speaking, profiling is more to do with colour. Calibration has everything to do with brightness, and I couldn't agree more with Sando. Get your monitor calibrated.


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Jan 31, 2008 09:52 |  #11

Damo77 wrote in post #4766204 (external link)
Strictly speaking, profiling is more to do with colour. Calibration has everything to do with brightness, and I couldn't agree more with Sando. Get your monitor calibrated.

Profiling is usually (and I mean, usually!) a case of asking your print shop to provide you with a copy of the ICC profile of their printer, and loading that into your computer. That way, the colours you see on screen will look the same the colours when your print is done. Along with calibration, these are essential steps if you want some 'serious' prints doing. I usually don't piss around too much when it's a few snapshots. :)


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Jan 31, 2008 16:19 |  #12

You're talking about printer profiling. I was referring to monitor profiling (as distinct from monitor calibration).


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Jan 31, 2008 18:15 |  #13

PG07 wrote in post #4762566 (external link)
Don't get me wrong most of my pics are ok but some that look really good on the screen come out too dark and if I really like the picture have to re-edit it to be brighter usually in curves.

Since most of the prints match what you see on the monitor and just a few do not, I would question the lab's consistency, especially if you don't ask them to print "as is" but let them adjust (or auto-adjust) the images before printing.

You may try and enclose the same problematic file to what you are sending them on different occasions and see if the resulting prints match between them. After a test like that I recently decided to start printing at home and have since come quite far in matching the monitor to the printed output.




  
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