Arizona POTN get together?

I haven't been to the Ren Festival in years, but back in the 90's they really gave photographers a hard time (no cameras in the middle ages, you know). Most of the "actors" (carneys really) wouldn't let you take their picture.

BrianAZ wrote in post #4869712
I haven't been to the Ren Festival in years, but back in the 90's they really gave photographers a hard time (no cameras in the middle ages, you know). Most of the "actors" (carneys really) wouldn't let you take their picture.

Just tell them it's not a 'camera' but DaVinci's new-fangled 'Automatic Painting Machine.'

azpix wrote in post #4868644
Hey AZ shooters.

was wondering if any of you have ever been up to Grand Falls outside of flagstaff. Wondering if it's a worthwhile place to go and shoot. Also trying to find the best time to go.

Grand Falls is VERY cool. Have fun with the directions. It's one of those places that you just have to 'know' how to get there. I'd go after lots of rain (You'll need 4x4, res roads are greeeat), or during snowmelt. The falls are HUGE!

If the water isn't very high, you can hike down and get up behind the falls, on the falls, under the falls, around the falls..

It's funny. There's no 'parking areas' or anything. You'll just drive till you hit the river, then down to the left there's a giant hole in the ground with a massive double step waterfall.

Pics don't do the size justice. It's massive.

I would definatley be interested, have a 4x4 can carry 3 + me + gear.

Here is the first set of directions: Latitude: 35.4275 : Longitude: -111.2

Directions: From I-40, 15 miles east of Flagstaff, take exit 211 at Winona. Drive 2.3 miles north to Leupp Rd. Turn right and drive 20.3 miles to unpaved and unsigned Indian Road 6910 (between mileposts 5 and 6). Turn left and drive along this rough road 9.4 miles to the turnoff on the left, which leads to the falls overlook (do not cross the Little Colorado River). Grand Falls can also be accessed from Indian Road 70 (instead of 6910). This road is located 15.0 miles along Leupp Rd (5.3 miles before Road 6910). Follow Road 70 8.4 miles to the same turnoff on the left before the Little Colorado River (Roads 6910 and 70 join together just before the turnoff). I recommend driving along Road 6910 instead of Road 70. Both roads are very rough going and you will need a 4x4 to drive them. But Road 6910 is much easier going and faster than Road 70.

xpsentity wrote in post #4869995
Grand Falls is VERY cool. Have fun with the directions. It's one of those places that you just have to 'know' how to get there. I'd go after lots of rain (You'll need 4x4, res roads are greeeat), or during snowmelt. The falls are HUGE!

If the water isn't very high, you can hike down and get up behind the falls, on the falls, under the falls, around the falls..

It's funny. There's no 'parking areas' or anything. You'll just drive till you hit the river, then down to the left there's a giant hole in the ground with a massive double step waterfall.

Pics don't do the size justice. It's massive.

HOLY SMOKES! I just missed 2 weeks of updates on this thread thinking that I was setup to receive an email every time a new message was posted, but I guess not! Here I was telling Tammieo that there was such little activity on the Az POTN forum, but looks like everyone was chatting up a storm! So, what did I miss?

Just kidding - I quickly skimmed through 36 pages of posts and just wanted to say "Hi" to all the new members (can't remember everyone's name but I think I saw Ryan, Amanda, Blue-J, Tom, maybe another Mike?). Also Kristy, I wanted to say that I'm sorry for your loss - I know how important a pet can become in our lives. Also, I think someone asked about galleries for their photos and I will echo disneydork's advice - get on the Flickr bandwagon!

Now for a topic that I'm pretty sure has come up before, and many have probably had mixed feelings about, but what does everyone think of moving this conversation to Google Groups? Let me at least throw some pros and cons out there since it isn't a perfect solution but something we might want to consider because...

PROS:

• Anyone with an email address can join, no Gmail account needed.
  
• Options are available for instant email response, daily email updates, or no email updates.
  
• No need to login to a forum, you start conversations and reply to conversations through your own email client by using a somename@googlegroups.com email address (where somename is the name that is picked for the group, in our case it could be AZPOTN).
  
• If you use Outlook, Gmail, or any other email client that allows you to create filters, you can group and archive incoming emails from the group so they don't clutter up your inbox.
  
• New conversations for each topic can be created so that we don't have to sort through one long thread for previous answers/questions/comm​ents et cetera.
  
• Google Groups uses Google's search engine so it's easy to search conversations/posts for information, keywords, and members.
  
• Pages can be created for additional information sharing.
  
• Photos and files can be shared directly (up to 100MB), so no need to link as long as we're not uploading huge files.
  
• Members can opt out/unsubscribe at anytime.
  
• It's basically a simple, lean, personal, and free forum.

• It's an additional forum to keep track of since most of you also post elsewhere on the Canon Digital Photography Forums.
  
• For those who do not have Gmail, Outlook, or a way to setup inbox filters, you may receive a lot of emails in your inbox (that is if you choose to receive an email for every new response - see note about Google Group options in PROS if you missed this).
  
• We're allocated 100MB of total file uploads (although you can't upload files to the Canon Digital Photo forums anyway).

So, what do you all think? Open and honest discussion is key, but please limit your expletives to 1 per sentence. All kidding aside though, I really think that creating an AZPOTN Google Group could actually enhance the conversation and info/idea sharing experience as using this single thread for all things photography can become quite laborious even when trying to keep up with a few days of missed conversation.

Anyone care to share their thoughts, ideas, comments, rebuttals, concerns, questions, pet peeves?

~Tomas (a.k.a. since76)

Post Scriptum: If you want to see an example of what a Google Group looks like and how it works, visit the "My Other AZ Photo Group" link in my signature and go to the 'Discussions' tab located on the right sidebar.

Listservers are a good idea BUT, they are not immune from the same issues you find here or on usenet. Most notably: OT Posts and thread creep.

Personally, I kinda like how this works here at POTN. I don't think we've ever been "modded" on this thread but I admit I like the fact that there is a "higher power" keeping an eye on things.

I've tried usenet and I've subscribed to a few groups via Google and both eventually decline into way too much babble. Not saying we would, but if we don't, we'd be the exception to the rule.

YMMV...

PS...Greetings from Daytona! We've been busting our humps getting ready to go on the air tomorrow afternoon but I hope to get out for some shooting on Monday and/or Tuesday when we're supposed to have a day off. Hope everyone is well. I already miss the desert.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #4871360
Listservers are a good idea BUT, they are not immune from the same issues you find here or on usenet. Most notably: OT Posts and thread creep.

Personally, I kinda like how this works here at POTN. I don't think we've ever been "modded" on this thread but I admit I like the fact that there is a "higher power" keeping an eye on things.

I've tried usenet and I've subscribed to a few groups via Google and both eventually decline into way too much babble. Not saying we would, but if we don't, we'd be the exception to the rule.

YMMV...

PS...Greetings from Daytona! We've been busting our humps getting ready to go on the air tomorrow afternoon but I hope to get out for some shooting on Monday and/or Tuesday when we're supposed to have a day off. Hope everyone is well. I already miss the desert.

Hey FlyingPhotog thanks for your input, this is the kind of info I was hoping to see since I know that the if something isn't broke, don't break it (yeah, I know I butchered it) philosophy is in effect here for sure!! As for the lurkers causing trouble on usenets, I completely agree that it's a possibility and an issue.

Just to clarify, Google Groups does give the option to assign moderators that can edit and delete conversations as they wish (and remove spammers) which in this case might not be an issue because the Google Group would only consist of AZPOTN members if it's not an issue on this thread, chances are it wouldn't be an issue on a Google Group comprised of members using this thread. Also, Google Groups allows moderation (and removal) of people who join so that would keep out any randoms trying to jump on the group and advertise their latest product for satisfying your lover in bed.

Anyway, just my 2 cents - any other feedback or thoughts on the idea?

Oh we've been "modded" before and well most likely be "modded" again. Once in a great while we get OT just a little.

Group pages are okay for family and things like that, but this is just a small part of something larger.

How do you subscribe to this thread?

[QUOTE=Kristy;4868227]​You aren't kidding... all these bugs, and flowers, and landscapes... they're beautiful... but I need to practice on people...

Kristy

If you are wanting to photograph people there is a "Fan Fest" down at the ballpak on Saturday the 9th. It goes from 9 to 4. The last couple I've worked had lots of prople, and lots of kids, playing games, getting autographs, eating and just having fun. Its free and they are letting people park in the garage free too. Figure your not a big baseball fan but there will be people there. Just an idea.

Guerry

evelasco wrote in post #4872584
How do you subscribe to this thread?

Ya just did!

Welcome!!

since76 wrote in post #4871185
Now for a topic that I'm pretty sure has come up before, and many have probably had mixed feelings about, but what does everyone think of moving this conversation to Google Groups? Let me at least throw some pros and cons out there since it isn't a perfect solution but something we might want to consider because...

So, what do you all think? Open and honest discussion is key, but please limit your expletives to 1 per sentence. All kidding aside though, I really think that creating an AZPOTN Google Group could actually enhance the conversation and info/idea sharing experience as using this single thread for all things photography can become quite laborious even when trying to keep up with a few days of missed conversation.

Anyone care to share their thoughts, ideas, comments, rebuttals, concerns, questions, pet peeves?

~Tomas (a.k.a. since76)

Tomas

I'm kinda new on here but the one thing I like is the ability to share and CC photos as part of the forum. I looked at the Google thing at it just seemed less geard toward putting out a picture or two and talking about it if you want. I also like the fact that there is a bigbrother watching so to speak here that keeps in pretty clear of junk. Just my 2c

By the way Hi

evelasco wrote in post #4872584
How do you subscribe to this thread?

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #4872621
Ya just did!

Welcome!!

I was gonna do a similar thing

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Not a bad price... if anyone is in need of a macro lens...

Hatch

For those of you who like to shoot people, go check out this gallery on PBase:
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