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EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM: which teleconverter?

 
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Feb 20, 2008 01:09 |  #1

I plan to purchase a Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM (non IS) is the very near future, to use with my Rebel XT. Which teleconverter's brand or model, other than Canon's, would you recommend? I am looking for camera's AF function with the lens and converter, of course.

The more I read about teleconverter compatibility, the more confused I become. That's why I have decided to ask. I sincerely appreciate your help on this matter.


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Feb 20, 2008 02:16 |  #2

I use Sigma's x2 converter with my 200 and have not been disappointed.

edit: autofocus is slightly slower but don't normally notice. If I don't want to loose two stops I use my Canon 1.4.

another edit: Forgot to say I really love my 200 nice and easy to manual focus when required.


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Feb 20, 2008 02:20 |  #3

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Feb 20, 2008 07:09 |  #4

Myself, I'd use my Tamron SP 1.4x. But, the Canon 1.4x II would be a good choice as well.


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Feb 20, 2008 09:15 as a reply to  @ gasrocks's post |  #5

I use the kenko pro 1.4, with good results


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Feb 20, 2008 13:18 |  #6

Rafromak wrote in post #4954809 (external link)
I plan to purchase a Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM (non IS) is the very near future, to use with my Rebel XT. Which teleconverter's brand or model, other than Canon's, would you recommend? I am looking for camera's AF function with the lens and converter, of course.

The more I read about teleconverter compatibility, the more confused I become. That's why I have decided to ask. I sincerely appreciate your help on this matter.

Both a 1.4X and 2X will permit AF on a non-pro body so you could go for the Canon ones. I use the EF 1.4X II and EF 2X II with both this lens and the 300 f4 IS with great results. The 300 f4 IS + 2X is of course manual focus only on a non-pro body.

AF will always slow down when a TC is used.

I understand the best of the 3rd party TC are very similar in performance to the Canon ones but tend to prefer to get Canon's equipment. The only time I didn't the quality was not good enough and I had to replace the items with Canon ones.


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Feb 20, 2008 13:54 |  #7

Get the Kenko pro 300 1.4x, it's great, cheaper, and won't make your set-up look like an oreo!! (since it's black and the canons are white) Mine doesn't slow AF down or mess with the wonderful IQ of the 200. I borrowed a 2x once and found it fun, not great, but usable. I may consider buying it, but I have my heart set on the 400, but my body is suddenly betraying me and I can't lift much weight-wise so I may just go with the 2x instead.


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Feb 20, 2008 20:29 |  #8

Thanks for the replies, all of you have been most helpful.

So far I am leaning toward the Kenko Pro 300 1.4x. What exactly didn't you like about the Kenko's 2x, gardengirl13?


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Do you have some shots with your 300L F4 IS on a 2x converter? I need more reach than my 300L + 1.4x. I can't afford either the 300L 2.8 or 400L 2.8. Most people think that 2x converter on any non F2.8 telephoto lens you will lose out a lot of IQ.

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Both a 1.4X and 2X will permit AF on a non-pro body so you could go for the Canon ones. I use the EF 1.4X II and EF 2X II with both this lens and the 300 f4 IS with great results. The 300 f4 IS + 2X is of course manual focus only on a non-pro body.

AF will always slow down when a TC is used.

I understand the best of the 3rd party TC are very similar in performance to the Canon ones but tend to prefer to get Canon's equipment. The only time I didn't the quality was not good enough and I had to replace the items with Canon ones.


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Feb 20, 2008 22:55 |  #10

The 300 f4 IS + 2X is of course manual focus only on a non-pro body
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Not always the case. I have full autofocus with a Tamron and some good results (with a XT body). Don't have the time wright now, but tonight I'll dig up a picture to show.
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Interesting but would the autofocus still accurate at F8 by forcing it? Since 2x converter a bit extreme. Won't a Canon one offer better image quality over the 3rd party ones when comes to 2x converter? Thanks.

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The 300 f4 IS + 2X is of course manual focus only on a non-pro body
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Not always the case. I have full autofocus with a Tamron and some good results (with a XT body). Don't have the time wright now, but tonight I'll dig up a picture to show.
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Feb 21, 2008 06:50 |  #12

TooManyShots wrote in post #4960741 (external link)
Do you have some shots with your 300L F4 IS on a 2x converter? I need more reach than my 300L + 1.4x. I can't afford either the 300L 2.8 or 400L 2.8. Most people think that 2x converter on any non F2.8 telephoto lens you will lose out a lot of IQ.

Yes I posted two that got into the POTN Book Vol 1 recently on a similer topic. I see if I can find them again. In addition you will find lots of technical type test results for these lenses and TCs on my website if that interests you.

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Interesting but would the autofocus still accurate at F8 by forcing it? Since 2x converter a bit extreme. Won't a Canon one offer better image quality over the 3rd party ones when comes to 2x converter? Thanks.

There is a lot of articals suggesting that AF overshoot and sometimes hunting happens yes.


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Feb 21, 2008 11:00 |  #14

Lester is correct, hunting appears more often than without the tc. Sure consequences have to be considdered in terms of speed, IQ (especially contrast), apperture, hunting, ISO.
I honestly say that it isn't a combo I use on a regular base. It's handy for cases one is in need of a cheep and big tele - like shooting the moon for instance.
Sure IQ will be better with a Canon TC but you lose AF (unless you tape off a pin on the lens) but the Tamron does the job for what it's worth.
Here are a few examples. The girl (on the fly/street) is taken with an 350d on 1/250 F/8. A 100% crop is added. The moon is taken a few days ago with an 30d, same speed.
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