Rubbish picture, just looking for ID

Hi,

I know nothing about birds but came across this today and wondered what it is?

I think that's a buzzard.

Thanks eccles, are there different types?

Picture was taken in the New Forest and it was flying above a line of trees if that helps any with the ID.


Steve

There are different types, but the Common Buzzard, which is what you have here, is usually just referred to as Buzzard.

Buzzard looks ok to me Steve, now you just need to get a closer shot and get hooked on bird photography.

looks more like a red shoulder hawk to me, or another accipiter(woodland hawk), the term buzzard refers to any big raptor we cant name haha, here in ky, buzzards are either black or turkey vultures(seen below) i took this today , it was way up and my 105mm doesnt reach out. so i had to chop alot of sky off the pic. but these types have bald heads. the raptor you seen was a hawk , likly red shoulderd.. tho i am no expert on the raptors in UK. hope this made sense, most of what i know i get from a faloner friend.
mike

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Thanks for your help everyone!

philc123 wrote in post #5034661
Buzzard looks ok to me Steve, now you just need to get a closer shot and get hooked on bird photography.

You're telling me! That is a 100% crop and taken at 400mm (showed me how good the AF on the 1Dmk2 is though). I'm off to the Hawk Conservancy next weekend where they will be a little closer!


Steve

mikeb540 wrote in post #5034781
looks more like a red shoulder hawk to me, or another accipiter(woodland hawk), the term buzzard refers to any big raptor we cant name haha, here in ky, buzzards are either black or turkey vultures(seen below) i took this today , it was way up and my 105mm doesnt reach out. so i had to chop alot of sky off the pic. but these types have bald heads. the raptor you seen was a hawk , likly red shoulderd.. tho i am no expert on the raptors in UK. hope this made sense, most of what i know i get from a faloner friend.
mike

These UK guys refer to raptors as buzzards They don't mean what US folks mean when we say BUZZARD..

joayne wrote in post #5035095
These UK guys refer to raptors as buzzards They don't mean what US folks mean when we say BUZZARD..

Ah ok .. I was going to say thats no Buzzard ,Im no bird expert by any means but I do know that that was no Buzzard.

Yeah, well, I did the same once.. just once and got flamed by the UK members I learned real quick.

either way its a raptor, vulture or not(its not) ,, heck here inthe states i belaeve some areas call the redtail hawk a buzzard.. but i know better, what can i say, raptors and reptiles are my study area hah
mike

Yep, UK/European buzzards are large hawks, considerably larger than peregrines. They are the commonest large bird of prey in many areas of the UK and can frequently be seen circling high on thermal upcurrents, particularly over open countryside. The dark foreward parts of the wings with the light primary feathers is typical of the dark form although apparently there are many colour variations. The only other UK buzzard is the honey buzzard, which has lighter wing undersides and is quite rare.

Its a common Buzzard, there are loads by us, in the Midlands.

joayne wrote in post #5035095
These UK guys refer to raptors as buzzards They don't mean what US folks mean when we say BUZZARD..

Just to clarify, the UK guys are correctly calling them Buzzards, we Colonials somehow got it mixed up at some point in the past and started calling our Vultures buzzards..
It is a colloquialism, and is not proper. Not even a North American bird book with the remotest pretension of scientific naming would refer to a Turkey Vulture as a "buzzard"
Nope, to find that term being applied that way we need to get more "local"

eccles wrote in post #5039034
Yep, UK/European buzzards are large hawks, considerably larger than peregrines. ...

Peregrines are falcons..

I believe that the term Buzzard in the UK applies to the family "Buteo", so an Englishman could properly call a North American Red Tailed Hawk a "Buzzard" but should not do so with a Coopers Hawk which is an "Accipiter".