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Mar 10, 2008 02:22 |  #1

I'm aiming to shoot one portrait a day for, oh, who knows how long? I'm a relative n00b, so I could use constructive criticism. My current gear is the Canon EOS 5D with grip and the 50mm f/1.8. That's pretty much it. No flash or anything yet. I'm looking to add the 135mm f/2L and some high-quality portable lighting gear in the near future.

So, onto the first photograph. This is a pretty girl who works in a coffee shop I frequent. Like most everyone I photograph, I basically just walked up to her and explained my project, then asked if I could take some pictures. And, like most everyone else, she thought the idea a bit strange, became mildly self-conscious, all before consenting to the impromptu shoot.


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Mar 10, 2008 04:00 |  #2

It is a good photo but it looks to have a bit of motion blur. Maybe the ISO is too low and you need to go to a higher ISO thus making shutter speed quicker.
I love the pic a day concept :)


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Mar 10, 2008 04:03 |  #3

cute girl, cant wait to see your project unfold and your skills develop


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Mar 10, 2008 11:41 |  #4

PG07 wrote in post #5083758 (external link)
It is a good photo but it looks to have a bit of motion blur. Maybe the ISO is too low and you need to go to a higher ISO thus making shutter speed quicker.
I love the pic a day concept :)

Motion blur? Ugh . . . I think I see it. How frustrating! And I was so sure I had nailed the shot. I don't have the file handy, but I'm pretty sure the info is as follows:

Focal Length: 50mm
F-Stop: f/1.8
Shutter Speed: 1/100 second
ISO: 400

Should I have been able to accomplish that shot without camera shake? Maybe I don't have very steady hands. I guess I could raise the ISO as suggested or, at the very least, practice holding the camera steady. ;-)a What shutter speed should I aim for?


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Mar 10, 2008 12:14 as a reply to  @ NeinLives's post |  #5

Another thought: a friend suggested that the blur may not be camera shake, but rather, the limited depth of field of f/1.8. I'd sooner attribute the softness starting beneath her eyes and increasing downward to that, especially since her eyes and hair are in relatively sharp focus. In fact, you can see individual strands of hair clearly; this would not be the case if motion blur were present.


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Mar 10, 2008 13:26 |  #6

looks pretty cool. a bit red i think.

Try getting a flash. Man 5D ? Nice.. I want one. lol


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Mar 10, 2008 13:27 as a reply to  @ NeinLives's post |  #7

Cropped, took out the distracting light in the background, smudged a little under the eyes, sharpened catchlights. All done in canon photostudio. Any better?


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Mar 10, 2008 13:34 |  #8

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Cropped, took out the distracting light in the background, smudged a little under the eyes, sharpened catchlights. All done in canon photostudio. Any better?

Interesting changes. Thanks for the suggestions. I prefer the original, with all the stuff in the background, because it helps the viewer know that the subject works in a coffee shop. I do think that, had I decided to crop in closer to the subject, I might have made a selection similar to the one you have suggested. As for the smudge under the eyes, I probably would pass on it, since it seems to have a different, almost airbrushed texture in comparison to the rest of the subject's face. The transition from the smudged area to the non-smudged area is a bit too stark. I may put this technique into practice in the future, utilizing, in addition to the smudge tool, one of Photoshop's feathering tools in order to more subtly blend the textures.

Thanks again for the feedback. This is what I'm looking for, even if I disagree with you; atleast you're helping me to become consciously aware of things I might have otherwise discounted.


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Mar 10, 2008 13:42 |  #9

leninglass wrote in post #5086351 (external link)
looks pretty cool. a bit red i think.

Try getting a flash. Man 5D ? Nice.. I want one. lol

It is a bit warm, isn't it? That's one of the things I like about the picture, because coffee shops tend to have a warm feeling. I also like how the reds (of the background and of her apron, hair, and lips) contrast with the blues of her eyes and t-shirt.

Do you think the reds are overpowering? If so, how might you go about fixing this? If I had to address this, I'd probably use the channel mixer adjustment layer and maybe pull down the reds ever so slightly.


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Mar 10, 2008 13:50 |  #10

NeinLives wrote in post #5086434 (external link)
Interesting changes. Thanks for the suggestions. I prefer the original, with all the stuff in the background, because it helps the viewer know that the subject works in a coffee shop. I do think that, had I decided to crop in closer to the subject, I might have made a selection similar to the one you have suggested. As for the smudge under the eyes, I probably would pass on it, since it seems to have a different, almost airbrushed texture in comparison to the rest of the subject's face. The transition from the smudged area to the non-smudged area is a bit too stark. I may put this technique into practice in the future, utilizing, in addition to the smudge tool, one of Photoshop's feathering tools in order to more subtly blend the textures.

Thanks again for the feedback. This is what I'm looking for, even if I disagree with you; atleast you're helping me to become consciously aware of things I might have otherwise discounted.

It was a quickie fix on the eyes. Yes you would have a better fix doing what you describe. Certainly don't do the crop if you are going for a setting shot that needs the background for context. Didn't know that's what you were going for. I probably wouldn't have used f1.8 for the shot if that's what I was going for. But hey, that individual preference.



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Mar 10, 2008 13:51 |  #11

Okay, you asked for it.. LOL okay I am kidding I won't be harsh on ya.. This girl is very pretty with amazing eyes.. I do see some blur to the photo and I think it is due to the shallow DOF... f/3.2 - 4.0 would have been pretty good for a shot like this.. With shooting wide open at 1.8 the dof is so shallow that you have her eyes focused but anything not at the same distance as her eyes in front or in back will start to show the blur.. Make sense?? When doing a shot like this try iso 400 and use the AV setting and shoot 1 shot at 2.8 then 3.5 and 4.0.. If the shutter speed gets to slow then set the iso at 800.. Good luck..


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Mar 10, 2008 13:54 as a reply to  @ HoosierJoe's post |  #12

Cute shot. If you want folks to toss their plays into the ring.lol.you could invoke the Image Editing in your User profile...:cool:


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Mar 10, 2008 14:00 |  #13

Flo wrote in post #5086596 (external link)
Cute shot. If you want folks to toss their plays into the ring.lol.you could invoke the Image Editing in your User profile...:cool:

Done. :-)


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Mar 10, 2008 14:12 as a reply to  @ NeinLives's post |  #14

Lol.that was quick! It is a formal thing done here, in respect to the poster....many don't like their photos touched...;) Sometimes seeing instead of reading helps more...lol.or not!:p

Seeing as its on now.(whistling)...

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A little desaturation of the colors..slight shadow. I think you are going to have a great time and met some interesting folks doing this!

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Mar 10, 2008 14:14 |  #15

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Lol.that was quick! It is a formal thing done here, in respect to the poster....many don't like their photos touched...;) Sometimes seeing instead of reading helps more...lol.or not!:p

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A little desaturation of the colors..slight shadow. I think you are going to have a great time and met some interesting folks doing this!

I can't help but smile at how ominous you make image editing permission seem: "Seeing as its on now(whistling)..." :-D


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