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Upgrade 30D to 40D?

 
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Apr 22, 2008 07:09 |  #1

I have been using my 30D since it was first out on the market. I know there few new features on 40D that 30D doesn’t have. Is it worth upgrade to 40D? Please tell me your experience with the new 40D.

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Apr 22, 2008 07:50 |  #2

20D -> 40D YES. mostly customization and better focusing.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:21 |  #3

IQ is better, and the AF (especially Servo) is signficantly better. The body is very similar, but the grip is a little bigger, which makes it more comfortable to me. The other features are just icing. If you can easily afford the upgrade, I'd say go for it. If that upgrade will keep you from buying better glass, then I'd probably get the glass.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:28 as a reply to  @ prime80's post |  #4

You aren't going to see anything dramatic as far as IQ is concerned.
The AF is definitely better, particularly on non-center AF points, since it is actually better than the 5D, which was better than the 30D.

You may also see a slight improvement in ISO noise.
The screen is bigger, but keep in mind that the resolution is the same, so for some, it actually isn't really better, and I would have to agree with this.

LiveView is nice...provided you need it. Weatherseal isn't a deal maker as it's partial. 6.5fps is nice, but not much more than 5 fps.

I agree, if you need more glass, get the glass. If you have money to burn, then sure, it's a nice "upgrade".




  
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Apr 22, 2008 10:38 |  #5

I have found the focusing on the 40D a big improvement over the 20D/30D. As for IQ, IMO I think it's sightly better.

I have to agree with Nicksan regarding the glass, get the glass...BTW, you already have a 30D that works very well where al lot of guys here will clench onto it and never give it up.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:41 |  #6

Stick with the 30D and wait for the 50D. The 30D is still an awsome camera.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:46 |  #7

The 40D is hands down the better camera. However, if you don't have the glass to back it up and take advantage of some of the best new features then I wouldn't recommend buying it.
Judging by your signature, you would be better off investing in some better class first. Maybe a 10-20 and a 24-70 to replace the 17-70?


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Apr 22, 2008 10:53 |  #8

Marbeck wrote in post #5380644 (external link)
Stick with the 30D and wait for the 50D. The 30D is still an awsome camera.

When is 50D or 5D mk2 what ever it is coming out? isn't the price going to be around $3500?




  
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Apr 22, 2008 14:20 |  #9

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When is 50D or 5D mk2 what ever it is coming out? isn't the price going to be around $3500?

LMAO... The 40D has not been out long enough for a 50D to be coming onto the market. There is always speculation about bodies, but the only people that actually know, do not spread rumors.

The 5DII has been rumored for over a year now. It will get here, when it gets here. And who knows what the price will be. Why wait for the future, when you can shoot for now.

Does the 30D limit you in getting the shot you need, to get a job done? Do you need the features of the 40D? 40D Features vs 30D Features: 3" vs 2.5" LCD, 6.5 vs 5 FPS, Liveview vs N/A, Digic III (14 Bit) vs Digic II (12 Bit), (Custom Modes) 3 vs 1, New Menu layout vs Old Menu layout, Partial Weather-sealing vs N/A.

I had a 40D, to replace the 30D. I preferred the 30D over the 40D. I sold the 40D b/c I did not like it. 230K pixel LCD at 3 inches vs 2.5 inches is quite a difference, with no pixel change. The 3" looks quite pixelated. Beyond that, if you need glass, spend the money on glass & pass on the 40D.


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Apr 22, 2008 14:25 |  #10

I have both and really I like both equally. I do appreciate the quietness of the mirror slap on the 40D. I think AF is slightly faster but I also feel noise is just a bit better on the 30. The 40 is a bit better at not blowing highlights since metering is a little different. Really, buy some glass if you need it. If you do need a 2nd body (as I did) it would be a nice upgrade.


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Apr 22, 2008 14:25 |  #11

Rockies Photo wrote in post #5382175 (external link)
LMAO... The 40D has not been out long enough for a 50D to be coming onto the market. There is always speculation about bodies, but the only people that actually know, do not spread rumors.

The 5DII has been rumored for over a year now. It will get here, when it gets here. And who knows what the price will be. Why wait for the future, when you can shoot for now.

Does the 30D limit you in getting the shot you need, to get a job done? Do you need the features of the 40D? 40D Features vs 30D Features: 3" vs 2.5" LCD, 6.5 vs 5 FPS, Liveview vs N/A, Digic III (14 Bit) vs Digic II (12 Bit), (Custom Modes) 3 vs 1, New Menu layout vs Old Menu layout, Partial Weather-sealing vs N/A.

I had a 40D, to replace the 30D. I preferred the 30D over the 40D. I sold the 40D b/c I did not like it. 230K pixel LCD at 3 inches vs 2.5 inches is quite a difference, with no pixel change. The 3" looks quite pixelated. Beyond that, if you need glass, spend the money on glass & pass on the 40D.

Thank you all for your input.... I will look for 24-70L glass.




  
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Apr 22, 2008 14:40 |  #12

Saul wrote in post #5382204 (external link)
Thank you all for your input.... I will look for 24-70L glass.

If you're not averse to EF-S glass, take a long look at the 17-55IS as well. It is an exceptional lens for a crop body.


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Apr 22, 2008 15:23 as a reply to  @ prime80's post |  #13

Use the money for lens. The photos I've seen on the 40d so far is not anything remarkable to a 10d, 20d let alone a 30d. But if you desire the Live View and 3" features go for it. Live View would be great if it has a swing LCD screen.
I saw a few folks using LV with their 40d (like P&S style) and it looked odd. :lol:


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Apr 22, 2008 16:17 |  #14

Went from the 30D to 40D, my findings:

IQ not noticeably different, can't tell if it's better, but it certainly isn't worse and there's 2 million extra pixels to play with.

AI servo- noticeable improvement in hit rate.

AF in general- with the 30D you HAD to use the centerpoint with any lens faster than 2.8 because the out lying AF sensors were not accurate enough with a shallow DOF.

With the 40D ALL the AF sensors are useable at wide apertures- Big improvement here.

I like the three custom user settings

I like HTP for when I shoot jpegs in bright daylight, it does seem to help a little

I've used LV all of ONE time, but it was useful the time I used it. 10X zoom manual focusing is great.

6.5 vs 5fps is nearly 25% faster. IMO that's more than "just a little".

The LCD is not any clearer but the color is better and it's a little easier to see in bright light.

ISO in the VF is a big plus

The LEDs in the VF are MUCH easier to read/see in bright light. With the 30D they all but disappeared in bright light.

The 40D has some weather sealing that the 30D did not???? News to me.

I was skeptical at first about the upgrade, but once I used the 40D for a while there is no way I could go back to the 30D, as good as it was, the 40D is just all around noticeably better.

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Apr 22, 2008 16:32 |  #15

How much is it going to cost you? You have to run the numbers first and then see if it is worth it from a budget standpoint. I got in on a deal from Circuit City using coupons, Discover cashback, rebates, ebay and I went from 30D -> 40D for under $40. It was worth the hassle. 6.5 FPS is awesome (if you know how to set it to that speed).




  
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