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Apr 23, 2008 12:04 |  #1

If you were to do a fashion-style photoshoot outdoors with just two speedlights and two umbrellas available how'd your setup look like?


  
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Apr 23, 2008 13:44 |  #2

I'll tag along with this one. That is pretty much what I have also, and would like to see some results from folks who have done this.


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Apr 23, 2008 15:35 |  #3

I came across this very interesting post on David Hobby's strobist.com. I think this is definitely a good read. To wrap it up, he puts the model in the shade to give you more stops to play with. From a slightly underexposed ambient exposure as fill he starts to adjust the strobes for key light. Very nice.

http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com …olling-daylight-pt-1.html (external link)


  
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Apr 23, 2008 23:14 |  #4

Good link, Stephan!

How about this: Start with no flash & see if you really need to use it:
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Apr 23, 2008 23:55 |  #5

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If you were to do a fashion-style photoshoot outdoors with just two speedlights and two umbrellas available how'd your setup look like?


You can try using the sun as a hair light, one strobe as a fill light and the other as key/main.... here is an example...

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Apr 25, 2008 14:21 |  #6

Thanks guys for your outstanding photos.
Turbodude, where did you position your lights on that shot. What kind of lights did you use?


  
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Apr 25, 2008 14:28 |  #7

Frank,
thanks for providing that link.
These natural light images are most impressive. He didn't even use a reflector for fill. The illumination is great, especially in the first image.


  
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Apr 25, 2008 14:50 |  #8

One right set to Group A: Main light aim that at head height towards the model.

One set to Group B: Rim/fill light that's slightly above models head to the side. The side depends on where the sun is.

Get a reflector and aim it low and up to fill the shadows, white is best but silver adds punch/'cleaner' light.

Play with ratios of around 1:2 and 1:4 if you're using e-TTL, make sure the flash on camera if you're using one is disabled. You don't say if you're using IR or Wireless rig. Play with the ratios and light positions, also figure out how to use the environment to your best advantage where's the passive light, where's the sun, what other features can you use etc.

Have a look at my Flickr pages, I have lighting write descriptions there:

http://www.flickr.com/​csd_images/ (external link)

It's mostly test lighting for my own concepts and ideas, but you may find some of use for your own project. Personally I prefer one umbrella and reflector and blend the ambient light that's available...

You could also do a clamshell type rig, one umbrella pointing down above head height, and the other pointing up from below the waist both connected to the same stand or at least parallel if you can't manage this.


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May 02, 2008 04:02 |  #9

So here's an example from the shoot I did last weekend.
The photo is lit by the sun (frontlighting), a reflector camera right and a speedlight crosslighting the sun.

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May 02, 2008 05:50 |  #10

Good shot, the light on the right is a bit hot/harsh for my taste but it's a judgement call on your part.

The other comment I would make and it's not related to lighting the hair covering her right eye detracts from the shot as it's breaking the visual contact with the viewer.


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May 02, 2008 07:35 |  #11

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May 02, 2008 07:46 |  #12

Umbrellas and outdoors many times ends up bent umbrellas and broken strobes. Lose the umbrellas.


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May 02, 2008 09:24 |  #13

I've been trying to re-find that guys videos for a while now, thanks for posting :-P




  
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May 02, 2008 09:44 |  #14

Gatorboy wrote in post #5446113 (external link)
Umbrellas and outdoors many times ends up bent umbrellas and broken strobes. Lose the umbrellas.

That's why you have sand bags, heavy camera bags or assistants. I've only ever had one umbrella get blown over in the 3 years of doing this. The umbrella is slightly bent but it's usable.


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May 02, 2008 12:44 |  #15

The speedlight for that image was actually bare, however I did use umbrellas, too. And yes, I had a great assistant. Plus we were lucky. There was no wind no that day whatsoever.


  
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