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May 01, 2008 22:19 |  #1

At the moment I have a 30D. But i'm kinda stuck with some financial problems. Basically I'm going to sell my 30D and thinking about downgrading to a 20D or a 10D Are there really any diff btwn this 2? Could you guys give me some in sight on these 2 cameras please? Thanks I really hate to sell this 30D.:cry:




  
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May 01, 2008 22:42 |  #2

Advantages of 10D
Better ergonomics
Registered AF preset button (like 1 series)
Very quiet shutter
Better build (negligibly)

Advantages of 20D
USB 2.0
Faster operation
Faster continuous shooting ( 5 fps vs. 3 fps)
~2 more megapixels
Ability to use EF-S lenses

If you need the speed, get the 20D. If you'd trade some speed for a quieter shutter and a roomier grip, get the 10D.


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May 01, 2008 22:52 |  #3

ive had both...

used 10d 300 ish
used 20d 450 ish

if you can afford to do the 150 dollar diff i would.
the FPS and better ISO as well as speed of use to chimp would be almost worth it.
some of my best shots were with a 10d... def wouldnt worry about IQ.


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May 01, 2008 22:55 as a reply to  @ DDWD10's post |  #4

The technical differences are: 20D - 8.2MP vs 10D - 6.3MP, 9 focus points vs 7 focus points, 5 FPS / up to 23 images vs 3 FPS / 9 images, max shutter speed 1/8000 vs 1/4000 .

The image quality is excellent with both, but the 20D produces less noise than the 10D. I owned both at the same time and preferred the 20D.



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May 01, 2008 22:55 |  #5

As much as I like my 10D, I'd make sure I had something faster as my primary body. It can be tedious with image read/write...especiall​y RAWs. There are no problems with it as far as image quality is concerned. As far as casual shooting goes, I grab it first over my 1D II most of the time.


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May 01, 2008 22:58 |  #6

There is a 10D in the for sale section for $250 as we speak...

The fact that it's a 1.6x crop camera and it CAN'T use EF-S lenses makes it pretty useless to me. Can't use 17-55IS, can't use EF-S 10-22mm .. for wide you'd have to use a 17-40L or something from Tamron or Sigma (not a terrible thing).


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May 01, 2008 23:06 |  #7

Thanks guys for the quick response. Man still thinking about it. Don't want to regret selling the 30D.




  
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May 01, 2008 23:07 |  #8

The 20D isn't much of a step down from the 30D. You wouldn't miss your 30D unless you consider spot metering and/or the larger LCD absolutely vital.


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May 01, 2008 23:09 |  #9

I think you should sell your 17-40L and get a kit lens or something rather then downgrade bodies. You can always buy the 17-40L again, but it would be harder to sell the 10d/20D for what you paid for it. I'd love to have a 30D, and I sure wouldn't downgrade my XTi to an XT. Others might argue with me, but that's just my oppinion, I'd hate looking at those tiny LCD screens and have slower AF/more noise.


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May 01, 2008 23:17 |  #10

DStanic wrote in post #5444694 (external link)
I think you should sell your 17-40L and get a kit lens or something rather then downgrade bodies. You can always buy the 17-40L again, but it would be harder to sell the 10d/20D for what you paid for it. I'd love to have a 30D, and I sure wouldn't downgrade my XTi to an XT. Others might argue with me, but that's just my oppinion, I'd hate looking at those tiny LCD screens and have slower AF/more noise.

That doesn't make much sense. There's more IQ difference via the lens than the body. Noise level differences are rendered moot when you expose properly. Not only that but the 30D is a 20D with a few feature differences. IQ is the same. I'd rather go all the way back to a D30 (external link) and still keep my 24-70L than use a 30D and kit lens.


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May 01, 2008 23:20 |  #11

Think about what you will actually net out of that deal, 30 - 20D..(not alot I bet) I have had them all and the 30d is nicer. My wife has the 30d I use a 40D, ( love it) and a 20d for a backup or 2nd body. The IQ difference 20D to the 30d is not much, you have spot metering on the 30D and a larger LCD that I like. The difference between the 10d and 20d, well for me the 20D was what I wanted the 10D to be. I kept my 20D !


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May 01, 2008 23:24 |  #12

Okay I can agree that a 20D wouldn't be that bad to own.. but I wouldn't want to downgrade more than that. But keep in mind unless you sell locally you are gonna lose like $30 selling your 30D just from shipping cost... and it's only like a $200-250 difference between cameras.

I guess photography is just too important a hobby for me, I'd be able to find something else to sacrifice if I was in a financial situation.


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May 01, 2008 23:36 |  #13

I'm just going to keep the 30D and find a way to fix this. Appreciate the comments guys.




  
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May 01, 2008 23:44 |  #14

It also doesn't make sense to me to sell a 30D for $650 and then buy a 20D for $450. You are only $200 ahead.

If it were me, I would sell the 17-40 for $550. Then buy another one for the same price later. At least you can still shoot with your 50mm.

You could also buy a nice 17-50, 18-50, or 17-70 for about $300 and still be ahead $250.

Or, how about a new 18-55 IS for only $175?


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May 02, 2008 08:58 |  #15

20D is hardly a step down from the 30D, as mentioned.

You'll hardly be ahead on this one. I agree with the selling of the 17-40 for the 17-50 to save $200 instead, at least you gain 1 stop and 10mm AND cash.

I'd just try to stick it out honestly. $200... you can sell something else to make $200. Everyone has junk to get rid of. have a yard sale or something.. ;) I tried that once and couldn't believe I made $700 on stuff I thought was useless and was gonna take to the dump.


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