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Jun 06, 2008 04:38 |  #181

I'm curious to see what your final product will look like Corzy. If I wasn't so busy today (friday) I could pass by and help you out. But my whole weekend is a mess.


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Jun 06, 2008 07:51 |  #182

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you need a jack to set up your rig? that's not good...

I need a jack for my car as well as it's simply too low to shove myself underneath there while I'm hunting for grabbing points.

With that said, for now at least, I have abandoned my magnet-based aspiration (not enough grabbing surface for the magnets) and will be going the same route you did Ninja... I bought an 8'-16' painter's extension pole and will be giving it a shot tonight or tomorrow. My Avenger F1000 cups and two additional clamps came in yesterday. Hopefully, I'll have some rig shots to offer. :D


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Jun 06, 2008 08:09 |  #183

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I'm curious to see what your final product will look like Corzy. If I wasn't so busy today (friday) I could pass by and help you out. But my whole weekend is a mess.

It's cool man. I think I have the design down pat. I might have a welding shop weld some things together for a more rigid design. If the galv. steel tubing ends up being too heavy, I might have to wait it out and save for aluminum tubing, or I can get a painters extension pole and rig it up with my design. I didn't even get my magnets in and it's looking pretty sturdy.

The only thing I would be worried about with the extension pole is the joint when it is fully extended. I'm not sure how thick the tubing is, but I'm assuming it's pretty similar to my pool brush extension pole, and it's not too stiff when fully extended, let alone trying to support a camera 15' out.


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Jun 06, 2008 08:56 |  #184

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The only thing I would be worried about with the extension pole is the joint when it is fully extended. I'm not sure how thick the tubing is, but I'm assuming it's pretty similar to my pool brush extension pole, and it's not too stiff when fully extended, let alone trying to support a camera 15' out.

That's why you need to buy a pole that is already fairly long so as to avoid extending it too far. Even though a 6'-12' pole would have sufficed lengthwise (extended), I knew it would have way too much bounce on it. Instead, I opted on the longer pole and got the 8'-16' pole. That way, it's almost long enough without the need to extend it much (if at all), while at the same time, it has no bounce to it.


...and is MUCH lighter than the EMT tubing I have for the magnet setup.


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Jun 06, 2008 10:04 |  #185

What lens are you using for these rig shots?


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Jun 06, 2008 10:11 |  #186

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What lens are you using for these rig shots?

I'll probably use the 10-22 and/or 17-55 f2.8 IS but was wondering about the same question. I'd love to hear what some of the guys used here for glass.


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Jun 06, 2008 10:31 |  #187

Well, it's obvious the closer the camera is to the car the less shake there will be. But it really depends on what you are going for with the picture... If you want a more wide angle (closer to the car with less shake), or more "regular zoom" (further away from the car with more possible shake). I don't have a choice with glass, so I'll be using my kit lens (18-55). I do plan on going with it's widest 18mm, so I can get closer to the car with less material.


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Jun 06, 2008 11:08 |  #188

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Well, it's obvious the closer the camera is to the car the less shake there will be. But it really depends on what you are going for with the picture... If you want a more wide angle (closer to the car with less shake), or more "regular zoom" (further away from the car with more possible shake). I don't have a choice with glass, so I'll be using my kit lens (18-55). I do plan on going with it's widest 18mm, so I can get closer to the car with less material.

I think there is also the look you are going for. An UWA will distort the car - not everyone's cup of tea. :)


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Jun 06, 2008 13:22 |  #189

Yeah. It really all depends what you want... I'll be fine with my kit lens for now.


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Jun 06, 2008 13:32 |  #190

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Yeah. It really all depends what you want... I'll be fine with my kit lens for now.

I'll be fine with anything right now, so long my goddamn rig works on the 4th weekend attempt! :evil:

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Jun 06, 2008 15:24 |  #191

:lol: Well I see you got your pumps! Get that rig workin and show us some pics!


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Jun 06, 2008 17:21 |  #192

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:lol: Well I see you got your pumps! Get that rig workin and show us some pics!

Tomorrow my friend, tomorrow! :D


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Jun 06, 2008 17:22 |  #193

Same here. As for now, TATA!


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Jun 07, 2008 07:55 |  #194

OK, so here as promised, are my 'behind the scenes' pics.

Pretty basic and almost identical to Dean's rig with the exception of the type of pole used and minus the magic arm.

Components:

1 x 10' EMT pole - $8 *** see note bellow ***
2 x Avenger F1000 suction cups - $97
3 x Manfrotto super clamps - $75
1 x Manfrotto 484 Micro ball head - $45

Total Cost: $225 :)


*** the pics bellow show a painter's pole, which I have since returned and replaced with a 10' EMT pipe. The bounce on the painter's pole was too much to my liking. Otherwise, my setup is identical to what you see bellow with the exception of the pole ***

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Jun 07, 2008 08:46 |  #195

Initially I really liked the magnet-based rigs as they appeared to pose less of a problem in PP. However, after my first rig session last night, I've realized that PP skills can be acquired fairly quickly and photoshopping the rig out may not big such of a big deal after all. On the other hand, finding a location, quick assembly, easy adjustments, and more mounting options are all advantages of the suction cup-based rigs. Those are much more important imo than PP work.

With magnet-based rigs you are limited to the spots under the car where you can mount it, it takes longer to assemble, and a real PITA to mount (i.e. jacking up the car, etc.). Have said that, I will keep my magnet rig and give it a shot at some point as well - using clamps. ;)


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