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Thinking of picking up the 24-105L - Talk me out of it..

 
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Jun 16, 2008 11:52 |  #1

Well I recently sold my 24-70L - Lens was too heavy and too short. I'm primarily using my 70-200L right now and I find that its too long!

The 24-105 would be PERFECT for what I shoot.. My only concern is how soft is it wide open? Is the F4 sharper than the F2.8 wide open?


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Jun 16, 2008 11:58 |  #2

[QUOTE=M Powered;5731308]Well I recently sold my 24-70L - Lens was too heavy and too short. I'm primarily using my 70-200L right now and I find that its too long!

The 24-105 would be PERFECT for what I shoot.. My only concern is how soft is it wide open? Is the F4 sharper than the F2.8 wide open?[/quote]

i think the brick is sharper wide open but they are close. i tended to shoot the 24-104L @ f4.5 as wide open.

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Jun 16, 2008 12:02 |  #3

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Well I recently sold my 24-70L - Lens was too heavy and too short. I'm primarily using my 70-200L right now and I find that its too long!

The 24-105 would be PERFECT for what I shoot.. My only concern is how soft is it wide open? Is the F4 sharper than the F2.8 wide open?[/quote]

i think the brick is sharper wide open but they are close. i tended to shoot the 24-104L @ f4.5 as wide open.

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95% of my shoots are done with strobes; both on location and obviously studio so its RARE that I shoot at anything less than F5.6 - However I'm spoiled at the fast focusing of the faster lenses...

IQ is the utmost importance for me and I need a lens to perform. In terms of IQ, which would you say comes out on top?

My other alternative is to get the 50mm because 80% of my shots are within the 45-50mm range.

Also in terms of wide open, my 24-70 wide open was very soft in comparison to my 70-200.


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Jun 16, 2008 12:08 |  #4

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95% of my shoots are done with strobes; both on location and obviously studio so its RARE that I shoot at anything less than F5.6 - However I'm spoiled at the fast focusing of the faster lenses...

IQ is the utmost importance for me and I need a lens to perform. In terms of IQ, which would you say comes out on top?

My other alternative is to get the 50mm because 80% of my shots are within the 45-50mm range.

Also in terms of wide open, my 24-70 wide open was very soft in comparison to my 70-200.

if you're using the 70-200L as a comparison most lenses will disappoint you wide open.

if IQ is more important i'd go with the 24-70L but at f5.6 you probably won't see any difference.

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Jun 16, 2008 12:11 |  #5

^ Ed's right. The 70-200mm is hard to beat, they've got really nice IQ. As for the shorter zooms, the 24-70mm is better but at f/5.6+ you'd be hard-pressed to notice a difference.

If you really want the best IQ, consider a prime at your most-used focal length and some NDs so you can shoot at brighter apertures.


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Jun 16, 2008 12:58 |  #6

As usual, I have to agree with Ed. The 24-105 is my primary lens. I now have a 24-70 as well, but it won't and can't replace the 24-105.

I personally can't think of any reason to talk you out of it unless the money is a problem. It's my favorite lens.


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Jun 16, 2008 13:02 |  #7

The 24-105 performs quite well wide open. Better it seems probably than the 24-70 2.8 at 2.8 but I don't have much time behind the wheel with either lens and I just got the 24-105 recently. At f4 the 2.8 has a slight advantage based on most measurements I've seen but beyond that it's largely a wash.

The 24-105 4L IS though definitely is no slouch wide open IMO, but the best thing is it allows me to handhold at f/5.6 or 8 in lower light conditions thanks to IS, which I would never be able to do with the 24-70. Additionally the increased DOF of f/4 is better for me even if it is less critically sharp than the other lens and IS regains more than what I lose in that one stop loss of light. My camera bag wouldn't have held the 2.8 very well with many of my other lenses crammed in and of course the lighter weight is appreciated when I hand hold it.

If you're not shooting candids and doing a lot of street photography where you need all the optical speed you can get, the 24-105 IS seems to be almost the perfect midrange zoom. I'm very happy with it so far.


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Jun 16, 2008 13:08 |  #8

^ Shooting models with strobes doesn't require IS, though. There's more than enough light. The problem there, I would think, would be DoF choices. If anything you want the option to open UP more; thus why I suggested a nice prime.


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Jun 16, 2008 13:10 |  #9

Yeah I missed that line. If you are shooting models with strobes having the option for less DOF might be nice. It depends on what you're shooting though I. I would personally think that a couple primes might be a better choice for that sort of shooting. Like a 50mm and 85mm for example. Generally they'll have a more pleasing rendition of OOF highlights, and of course they're faster.


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Jun 16, 2008 14:38 |  #10

I say get it. I most of my model shots are at 5.6 or higher using strobes. I like it better than my friends 24-70. My 24-105 is sharp. So I guess I am talking you into getting it...Just go for it.


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Jun 16, 2008 14:41 |  #11

I have 2x 24-70 and since I got my 24-105, I rarely use the 24-70 any more. The 24-105 is an excellent lens. I'm not a pixel peeper, but I've not seen any difference in IQ between the two.


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Jun 16, 2008 14:47 |  #12

My 24-105L is so lousy it's always on one of my two bodies..... :D

Seriously, I tend to shoot mine most of the time at f/4 without obvious issues. I can't compare to the 24-70L (as I don't own that) but I'm quite happy with the results even when my desired final image is significantly cropped.


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Jun 16, 2008 14:55 |  #13

I took mine back. It was a nice lens, but I could not see where it was performing any better than my Tamron AF28-75. The range was nice, but my other ones have that covered. Plus, it was a money issue too.

I think you'd find nearly all people happy with it, and maybe I did have a soft copy.


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Jun 16, 2008 15:36 |  #14

It's a good lens. I'm a die hard prime fan, but I was pleasantly surprised with my 24-105. I was looking for an all round walk about lens and it certainly hasn't disappointed. No, it's not *quite* as sharp as my best primes but it's perfectly adequate for most purposes.


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Jul 09, 2008 02:55 as a reply to  @ Bill Roberts's post |  #15

Noobie question... When you guys test for sharpness (24-105 at f4), is the in-camera sharpening set to 0?


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