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Jun 16, 2008 15:50 |  #1

Hi,
All first post here, looking for some feedback on the kit I have ordered to get me started now that I am a Canonite :).

Formally a an Olympus guy, had a E500 and E1 that I loved, but the newer E3/510/410 cameras use a Panasonic sensor that produces a cooler tone that is not as appealing to me as the warmer tones from the previous Kodak sensors, btw I also considered Nikon but to me their colors look over saturated and un-natural, but I'm not a Pro so it's just my personal opinion...

With the recent price drop on the 40D I decided this would be the best time to make the switch to a new system and after much back and forth and seriously considering my image needs (Portraits, School Sports, Some Landscapes) and how much I wanted to spend to achieve this, I decided on the following Kit:

40D + Canon BG-E2N Battery Grip
Tokina 12mm - 24mm f/4 PRO DX
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS EF USM

On the 1.6 cropped sensor I have an effective range of approx 19-480mm, with no gaps in between, with the fast F1.8/2.8 in the 24-70mm range for portraits were I think I will need it the most. I can live with the F4 on the wide end and F4-5.6 w/ IS for the long end.

The L's were tempting, but frankly that is more optical quality than I need at this point.

So based on the kit listed, are there any known flaws with this configuration that you can point out or perhaps warn me about before the gear gets here?

Thanks!,
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Jun 16, 2008 16:25 |  #2

I am a noob too but I can tell you that's a hell of a kit, have fun and get a good bag to carry all of this gear.


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Jun 16, 2008 16:32 |  #3

WagnerRX03 wrote in post #5733004 (external link)
I am a noob too but I can tell you that's a hell of a kit, have fun and get a good bag to carry all of this gear.

Haha, yep I think I might need to upgrade the bag also...I think it will all fit, might be a very cramped fit though ;), Thanks!!


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Jun 16, 2008 16:33 |  #4

Welcome aboard. You will not have any problem finding answers on P.O.T.N.


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Jun 16, 2008 16:34 |  #5

You forgot the flash...I'd suggest the 580EX II, but if you want to save some money, the 430EX is no slouch.


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Jun 16, 2008 16:45 |  #6

T.Hogan wrote in post #5733049 (external link)
Welcome aboard. You will not have any problem finding answers on P.O.T.N.

Thanks!, looking foward to contributing in this forum..


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Jun 16, 2008 16:52 |  #7

prime80 wrote in post #5733059 (external link)
You forgot the flash...I'd suggest the 580EX II, but if you want to save some money, the 430EX is no slouch.

I currently have 3 flashes, an FL50 and 2 Sunpak 383's. really want a 580EX II to replace my FL50, but will consider a 430EX for the time being if prices come down when the new version is available.

Have the Strobist bug, so on camera flash is very rare thing for me nowadays. Thanks


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Jun 17, 2008 02:17 as a reply to  @ Emergenic's post |  #8

Like the kit!

Only things I'd ask to re-evaluate are the following:

Instead of Tokina 12mm - 24mm f/4 PRO DX consider the new Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. While the focal length is shorter, I don't think you'll really miss the 17-23 range with your kit. It seems the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is considered to have the best overall IQ of all the ultra-wides. Or also consider the Sigma 10-20 (which I have and love), as it is also considered to have better IQ than the 12-24. All 3 of the lenses above cost about the same, so money shouldn't be a consideration there.

I currently couple my 10-20 with the 24-105L and I don't even notice the 4mm of focal lenghth that I'm missing.

The 50mm 1.8 is a fantastic lens(particulalry for the price), but its a weird focal length on a crop camera. I've got a 40D and that lens as well and since getting the Sigma 30 1.4, I hardly ever use the 50 anymore.

Just food for thought. I don't think you'll go wrong with the kit you proposed, but it never hurts to keep your options open.


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Jun 17, 2008 03:56 |  #9

Hi and welcome Emergenic,

Following on from what Calraisin said...
The Toki 11-16 is looking very good from reviews etc.
If your budget can stretch to the Canon 10-22 its worth a look.
Have a good look at the 24-105 as its a very good lens and very useful range.
I would also suggest getting the Sigma 30 1.4 instead of the 50. The 50 1.8 becomes 80mm and IQ really isn't that great. (slow & inaccurate AF. IQ is OK but not great. Its OK for the money but thats about it)

Good luck and happy shooting...


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Jun 17, 2008 15:19 |  #10

calraisin wrote in post #5735820 (external link)
Like the kit!

Only things I'd ask to re-evaluate are the following:

Instead of Tokina 12mm - 24mm f/4 PRO DX consider the new Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. While the focal length is shorter, I don't think you'll really miss the 17-23 range with your kit. It seems the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is considered to have the best overall IQ of all the ultra-wides. Or also consider the Sigma 10-20 (which I have and love), as it is also considered to have better IQ than the 12-24. All 3 of the lenses above cost about the same, so money shouldn't be a consideration there.

I currently couple my 10-20 with the 24-105L and I don't even notice the 4mm of focal lenghth that I'm missing.

The 50mm 1.8 is a fantastic lens(particulalry for the price), but its a weird focal length on a crop camera. I've got a 40D and that lens as well and since getting the Sigma 30 1.4, I hardly ever use the 50 anymore.

Just food for thought. I don't think you'll go wrong with the kit you proposed, but it never hurts to keep your options open.

I actually considered the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 before opting for the 12-24mm, but the approximately $200 dollars diffrence between this and the 12-24mm f4 made it the more cost effective choice of the two. Being that the 12-24 will be my WA specialty lens it seemed like the more practical choice.

...And I owned the Sigma 30mm f1.4 on a fourthirds mount (sold now), and it was one of my most utilized lenses, sharp and fast , loved it. Have not rueld out getting another copy for Canon mount.

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Jun 17, 2008 15:22 |  #11

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Hi and welcome Emergenic,

Following on from what Calraisin said...
The Toki 11-16 is looking very good from reviews etc.
If your budget can stretch to the Canon 10-22 its worth a look.
Have a good look at the 24-105 as its a very good lens and very useful range.
I would also suggest getting the Sigma 30 1.4 instead of the 50. The 50 1.8 becomes 80mm and IQ really isn't that great. (slow & inaccurate AF. IQ is OK but not great. Its OK for the money but thats about it)

Good luck and happy shooting...

Same response here, the 50 1.8 is just a starter lens that I may or may not keep, but for less than $100.00 I could not resist the temptation to try it out..Thanks


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Jun 17, 2008 15:29 |  #12

The Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS EF USM is known to be soft beyond 200 mm. Build quality is not great. I replaced mine with the 70-200 f/2.8L. Very happy with it.

Go here for Canon lens reviews: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ (external link)


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Jun 17, 2008 15:46 |  #13

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The Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS EF USM is known to be soft beyond 200 mm. Build quality is not great. I replaced mine with the 70-200 f/2.8L. Very happy with it.

Go here for Canon lens reviews: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ (external link)

Thanks for the link, read it during researshing this and other lenses in this range. This was the best compromise for me between the 55-250mm IS and the 70-200mm F4.

EDIT:....Also as a new Canon shooter I have not yet gotten comfortable with the "WHITE LENS" thing, Im sure they are outstanding pieces of glass but, I'm just not ready to walk around with one of them attached to my camera ;-)a


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Jun 17, 2008 16:30 |  #14

Speaking from experience....I would not consider the Sigma 24-70....I hated my 40D (and XTI) for that matter till I sold this inconsistant lens and bought a 24-70L....

Yes it cost more....but you stop banging your head against the wall when your pics look great one time and crappy the next.....Just my opinion.

Now the Sigma 30 1.4...that is a whole different story. Loved it till I went with the 35L...

And I can understand the "white lens" thing...but the 70-200 F4 L is the hidden gem in the Canon line up. Lite......and lovely....

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Jun 17, 2008 16:56 |  #15

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Speaking from experience....I would not consider the Sigma 24-70....I hated my 40D (and XTI) for that matter till I sold this inconsistant lens and bought a 24-70L....

Yes it cost more....but you stop banging your head against the wall when your pics look great one time and crappy the next.....Just my opinion.

Now the Sigma 30 1.4...that is a whole different story. Loved it till I went with the 35L...

And I can understand the "white lens" thing...but the 70-200 F4 L is the hidden gem in the Canon line up. Lite......and lovely....

Jon

I'm sure the 24-70mm L is worth every penny, but for the same money I bought 3 not as great but by all reviews and sample images I've seen , very capable lenses...and hopefully i won't get a bad copy of the Sigma *crossing fingers*

Edit: The photozone.de review of the 70-300 called it "The Hidden L" ...I thought this was the hidden Gem in the canon line up :-))


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