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EF 85mm f/1.8 users - with or w/o hood?

 
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Jun 24, 2008 02:19 |  #1

Hi,

I've just gotten hold of an EF 85mm f1.8, but without the optional ET-65 III lens hood. Just wondering, does the addition of the hood have any significant difference to the images produced by the lens? I'm more interested in results especially at wider apertures for this lens, and stuff like flare, vignetting etc. I'm currently using 1.3x crop body but am planning to upgrade to FF in future so feedback from FF users would be helpful as well.

Thanks in advance!


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Jun 24, 2008 02:22 |  #2

Hood make no difference with image quality. Besides flare. They are more of a safety device. If you drop your lens/camera it lands on the hood and the hood takes most of the hit.


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Jun 24, 2008 04:05 |  #3

A hood is one of those things that for 95% of shots it hasnt made any difference, but there is that other 5% where the sun was just at the right angle to cause flare, in which case the hood would have prevented a poor if not ruined shot.

In my view this was what they were designed for in the beginning, as for providing protection, well I guess maybe if your walking along slowly & you bump into something, it would hit the hood first, but as for dropping the camera/lens, I wouldnt like to say, I cant see a plastic hood saving the day, the shock would dislodge an element or damage the motor assembly.




  
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Jun 24, 2008 06:54 as a reply to  @ Nick_C's post |  #4

Plus the hood makes it look cooler!
Unfortunately, the 85mm f/1.8 hood is one of those clunky ones which "clips" to the lens. It spins freely as opposed to the bayonet hoods which seem much more secure. You have to be careful if you store the lens with the hood reversed; picking up the lens/hood by the hood will most likely result in the lens falling out of the hood and (hopefully) back into your bag.

WHY did Canon make this hood like this??????




  
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Jun 24, 2008 07:46 |  #5

I use hoods all the time. I set my lenses face down when I swap them and having the hood on keeps the front element away from the ground, grass, dust, etc....

I doubt it ever helped in image quality though......


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Jun 24, 2008 07:47 |  #6

egordon99 wrote in post #5781404 (external link)
Plus the hood makes it look cooler!
Unfortunately, the 85mm f/1.8 hood is one of those clunky ones which "clips" to the lens. It spins freely as opposed to the bayonet hoods which seem much more secure. You have to be careful if you store the lens with the hood reversed; picking up the lens/hood by the hood will most likely result in the lens falling out of the hood and (hopefully) back into your bag.

WHY did Canon make this hood like this??????

Turn the lens upside down so that when you take it out of the bag you are grabbing the lens, not the hood. ;)


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Jun 24, 2008 07:48 |  #7

And the hood is tricky to get on and off. It's the squeeze type and often, it goes flying. :) But I use it when I am outside. Not totally necessary, but I am hooded now. :)


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Jun 24, 2008 08:08 |  #8

DOAH! :lol:

In2Photos wrote in post #5781589 (external link)
Turn the lens upside down so that when you take it out of the bag you are grabbing the lens, not the hood. ;)




  
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Jun 24, 2008 08:09 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #9

I use this lens a lot for indoor low light candids. The hood is quite big, almost the same length as the lens, so makes the camera a lot more obvious. As a result I generally leave it off. In strong side lighting I would use it. As a protective device it is very limited - it would most likely spring off if the lens was dropped.


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Jun 24, 2008 08:12 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #10

Great thread! I just picked up the 85 mm and was wondering if I should bother with a hood or not. I think I'll pass for now. Thanks for the great insight!


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Jun 24, 2008 08:21 |  #11

jdlloyd67 wrote in post #5781695 (external link)
Great thread! I just picked up the 85 mm and was wondering if I should bother with a hood or not. I think I'll pass for now. Thanks for the great insight!

I wouldnt if I were you, yes ive shot many images with no hood in the past, but nowdays I make it a habit of putting on the hood, just a simple reversing procedure on my lenses.

If you never shoot in sunny conditions or with any strong light sources you can get away with no hood, but its designed purely to stop light hitting the front element & causing a loss of contrast, whether you notice the difference is down to how critical you are, but more often than not you wont realize that this image could have been better if you had the hood attached, unless you had a comparison, some of your images could even lack contrast very poorly if the sun hits the lens just at the right angle, ive seen it many times, a hood doesnt always stop this but more times than not it works great.




  
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Jun 24, 2008 08:26 |  #12

boucha wrote in post #5780776 (external link)
Hood make no difference with image quality. Besides flare. They are more of a safety device. If you drop your lens/camera it lands on the hood and the hood takes most of the hit.

No difference with image quality? Where did you pick that up...?

The hood will help reduce flare, like stated, but also and more commonly — it will give you better contrast and colors. Cutting down stray light will improve your image quality quite drastically in many situation. I use the hood for image quality primary and as protection secondary.


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Jun 24, 2008 09:15 |  #13

So in brief, though you don't need the hood 100% of the time, having the hood on can never do any harm :) (unless you pick it up by the hood and the lens drops)


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Jun 24, 2008 09:24 |  #14

I'm going to say with hood.

The 85mm f/1.8 is a great deal at the $300-400 range, but cheap enough I couldn't justify a good B&W MRC filter as it would add way too much to the cost. Instead, when I'm outdoors or even indoors with a crowd, the hood provides just enough distance from the front element to prevent brushes with foreign objects.

As for the hood not staying on, I've dropped my 85mm twice, and both times it landed on the hood and did not pop off... in fact, I'd say it saved the 85mm for me! (Both times with hood reversed)


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Jun 24, 2008 09:37 |  #15

i actually like the spring-clip hood design...it's far better than the 50 f/1.4 hood (much easier to install).

i use hoods on all my lenses, 100% of the time. helps keep stray fingerprints and other surface gunk away, as well as the obvious flare reduction.


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