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of the 3, the 17mm curved one is the best because of the balance of lines & shadow - but the colours don't really 'pop' in any of them (too much blue glare?) and imo the exposures could be fiddled a little... the foregrounds are a little empty/uniform, and the subject matter isn't 'wow'... they are more like (long) tourist snaps

sorry to rain on your parade - they are nicely stiched, specially the ripples one...

There's a certain tranquility to that last one there Tony. It pushes the sense of peace and quiet to the cross over boundaries of being a tad boring mind, but for me, I think there's just enough of 'something' about it to keep me interested.

Looks like you had great weather.

I like the last one too

somethingsimple wrote in post #5905086
but the colours don't really 'pop' in any of them (too much blue glare?) and imo the exposures could be fiddled a little... the foregrounds are a little empty/uniform, and the subject matter isn't 'wow'... they are more like (long) tourist snaps.

Thanks for the honest critque. As far as tourist snaps comment I to a degree was a tourist ..............I will collect my thoughts a bit more and add to this not that the comment grates me rather it adds to the mix of the "style" discussion we have been having and "that" comment has hit a nerve/cord.

if i thought it was the best you could do i might have thought better of it, i suppose im comparing it to other work youve shown us. by some peoples' standards it would be a good photo... but you can do more with a scene like that when you're in the zone

weka2000 wrote in post #5904351
Well seems I didnt do as bad as I thought

Looking into the town of Coromandel

The heavy shadow in the first one obscures to much detail, but then again it can be hard to reposition your main light when it's the sun.

The other 2 you could take into a cafe, or gallery anywhere in the Coromandel, Thames area, and sell for lots of money. They are a great capture of a very recognizable part of the area.

somethingsimple wrote in post #5905086
.....sorry to rain on your parade -

Please think before using this phrase again when critiquing someones work, it is not a positive phrase, in any context.

The best article I have ever read on Style ........I have the guys book and it is the best bok on photography I have.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/​aesthetics9.shtml

somethingsimple wrote in post #5906756
if i thought it was the best you could do i might have thought better of it, i suppose im comparing it to other work youve shown us. by some peoples' standards it would be a good photo... but you can do more with a scene like that when you're in the zone

This will help add to my essay

So, a question to you all..... a company I have photographed(fashion) for before in the past year is looking at doing a shoot(fashion) and has asked me to go in and have a meeting with the Marketing Manager, Designer, and another photographer to do some brainstorming for the next shoot. They explained that they have had 2 shoots in the last year, 1 by me and 1 by the other photographer, and like both of our work. The other photographer is quite new to photography but has all the gear and a studio. I'm in a dilemma about this. Do I go in there a share my ideas/style? Go in there and say nothing. Not go at all. Ask to have a separate meeting with the Marketing Manager and designer?

Your thoughts on this are much appreciated...

to tell the truth I would never expect anyone to ask this, it's like asking 2 architects to come to your house for a meeting at the same time to offer their services to design your house. Just not cricket!

harroz wrote in post #5906808
So, a question to you all..... a company I have photographed(fashion) for before in the past year is looking at doing a shoot(fashion) and has asked me to go in and have a meeting with the Marketing Manager, Designer, and another photographer to do some brainstorming for the next shoot. They explained that they have had 2 shoots in the last year, 1 by me and 1 by the other photographer, and like both of our work. The other photographer is quite new to photography but has all the gear and a studio. I'm in a dilemma about this. Do I go in there a share my ideas/style? Go in there and say nothing. Not go at all. Ask to have a separate meeting with the Marketing Manager and designer?

Your thoughts on this are much appreciated...

to tell the truth I would never expect anyone to ask this, it's like asking 2 architects to come to your house for a meeting at the same time to offer their services to design your house. Just not cricket!

So in effect they are asking you to do the most important part of the work, with no contract, and the chance they will use your ideas but go with the other guy??

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or it could be the other way around..

or the third and most likely is that they will use both of you and want you too work as a team...

i would go - say as little as possible creatively but listen intently on what the others say.

if it appears that the plan is to steal all your ideas then politely step back from the process...

not everyone is out to scam everyone else ....

That's why your contracting rate is 10 times your photographic rate isn't it

This is what I thought too and agree mostly, but then I'm not really putting in any creative input am I and so could lose the job, if I went over board and went in going crazy on creativity and being the one throwing most of the ideas around then yeah, I'd be showing my worth, but putting myself on the line.

No its not about scamming, more professionalism. would you go to a meeting to design a website with another designer for a brainstorming session? with no guarantee of the work?

Imagine a month after this meeting seeing your ideas used in that site, or photographically... hanging 3mtr x 1 mtr from the local Mall ceiling

I just don't know. I'm a pretty trusting lad usually but....

Nzshrimper wrote in post #5906848
i would go - say as little as possible creatively but listen intently on what the others say.

if it appears that the plan is to steal all your ideas then politely step back from the process...

not everyone is out to scam everyone else ....

harroz wrote in post #5906898
I just don't know. I'm a pretty trusting lad usually but....

I always follow my gut feelings ........ they very seldom let me down (sorry not very scientific or logical )