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Jul 24, 2008 22:52 |  #91

jfitzell wrote in post #5979716 (external link)
Also, you realise that DSLR's also DON'T do things that P&S's can like recording video?

Or for that matter, show the picture on the LCD in the same way that P&S's do. Even the cameras with live view take time to flip the mirror up to auto focus before it can put the mirror back down and take the shot. Looking through the viewfinder instead of the screen is really the only way to shoot.




  
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Jul 24, 2008 23:00 as a reply to  @ griptape's post |  #92

That's it. I'm convinced.


See the equipment list below. It's all going up for sale and I'm buying a P&S.

You guys are good. :shock: :rolleyes:


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Jul 24, 2008 23:05 |  #93

iCallisto wrote in post #5972741 (external link)
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Hi iCallisto,

One other thing, this photo has a nicely blurred background (referred to as bokeh) resulting from the aperture used, amongst other things.

You wont necessarily be able take this type of photo without ensuring that you have a lens with a fast aperture (I believe someone mentioned the 16-35/2.8 and the 24-70/2.8 earlier in this thread) so you should try and use some lenses at a shop to work out which ones achieve your goals.

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Jul 24, 2008 23:07 |  #94

belmondo wrote in post #5979796 (external link)
That's it. I'm convinced.

See the equipment list below. It's all going up for sale and I'm buying a P&S.

You guys are good. :shock: :rolleyes:

In that case, mind if I take your 1DsII off your hands? Since we both know it's not nearly as good as an S1is I'm sure it won't cost much :D

On an unrelated note. How do you find the 24-70 versus the 24-105 on the 40D? I'm looking to replace my 17-85 with one of these lenses (happy to get into the reasons outside of this thread if you're interested) and I really can't make up my mind. I'm not too worried about the weight of the 24-70 it's more trying to decide between the speed versus range.

Currently I'm leaning towards the 24-70 because of the speed and the potential auto-focus benefits of the f2.8 enabled centre focus point.


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Jul 24, 2008 23:17 |  #95

belmondo wrote in post #5979796 (external link)
That's it. I'm convinced.


See the equipment list below. It's all going up for sale and I'm buying a P&S.

You guys are good. :shock: :rolleyes:

You have to admit, this thread is like someone posting on a pilot forum "I've literally never touched or been inside a plane before, but I want to learn to fly, and instead of a single prop I want to learn in an F14 fighter jet".

Yes, there are absolutely advantages to a more powerful tool, but if you don't know how to use the basics of the tool, the more advanced parts of the tool may hurt you more than help you.

A camera's job is to get out of the way. You see something you want to capture, if your camera makes you press 6 buttons you're uncomfortable with before you do it, that's an eternity of missed moments.

The OP has obviously never held an SLR. Regardless of how eager and willing you are, learning takes time. If you don't know what the buttons do (or for that matter what a focal length is) then the camera is standing in the way of you capturing a moment.




  
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Jul 25, 2008 00:44 |  #96

iCallisto wrote in post #5977872 (external link)
Very helpful thank you!

Im a quick learner, but since I've only been using a p&s I havent had the chance to learn much about lenses. I'm looking at a packeage online for a good price that comes with two lenses. I figured I can mess around when them and get the feel of them before buying the marco that I'd like.

Any threads on here (Im not finding them) that talk about "how to" with lenses or anything like that that will help me to understand more about 13-45 and so on? 13-45 was made up...

In this forum, each section has a few "stickies" that give a whole lot of information and suggestions, and this includes lenses. I'd go to the top of the lens section and read through the stickies there, and I'd also go to the Talk About Photography section and read through the stickies at the top. It takes a bit of wading through, but there is invaluable information there.

As you read through these things, and check out the photo archives and photo sharing sections, you will doubtlessly come up with specific questions -- feel free to ask! And, welcome to the world of serious (and expensive) photography!


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Jul 25, 2008 01:55 |  #97

jfitzell wrote in post #5979831 (external link)
Hi iCallisto,

One other thing, this photo has a nicely blurred background (referred to as bokeh)

I think it's referred to as "photoshop" ;)


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Jul 25, 2008 11:02 |  #98

Sorry if this has been posted before,,, More megapixels dont amount to a whole hill of beans, its more of a marketing ploy.

http://www.nytimes.com …8/technology/08​pogue.html (external link)


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Jul 25, 2008 11:58 |  #99

jack lumber wrote in post #5982672 (external link)
Sorry if this has been posted before,,, More megapixels dont amount to a whole hill of beans, its more of a marketing ploy.

http://www.nytimes.com …8/technology/08​pogue.html (external link)

Good point but we don't need David Pogue to tell us that. IMHO he's an amateur and I wouldn't go to him for any serious information.




  
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Jul 25, 2008 13:16 |  #100

griptape wrote in post #5979914 (external link)
The OP has obviously never held an SLR. Regardless of how eager and willing you are, learning takes time. If you don't know what the buttons do (or for that matter what a focal length is) then the camera is standing in the way of you capturing a moment.

I have held one before and messed around with it. But that statement doesnt make much sense to me. I'm a quick learner and you know who really cares what I buy if its my money right?

And yes practice makes perfect so why cant I practice on a DSLR? You gotta start somewhere.

I did ps that last picture, but I never said that I didnt.




  
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Jul 25, 2008 13:17 |  #101

40D is a great start, the 5D is an exceptional start =)


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Jul 25, 2008 13:23 as a reply to  @ JCheungPhoto's post |  #102

belmondo wrote in post #5979796 (external link)
That's it. I'm convinced.

See the equipment list below. It's all going up for sale and I'm buying a P&S.

You guys are good. :shock: :rolleyes:

No, you can't have the G-5 back. You'd be better of with an S5IS anyway... :rolleyes: :lol:


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Jul 25, 2008 13:28 |  #103

JWright wrote in post #5983403 (external link)
You'd be better of with an S5IS anyway... :rolleyes: :lol:

So they tell me!!:lol:


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Jul 25, 2008 13:45 |  #104

JCheungPhoto wrote in post #5983385 (external link)
40D is a great start, the 5D is an exceptional start =)

Thank you!

Okay now... I stayed up til 5am lastnight looking for the right camera for me. I compaired photos that where taken by each camera. I even came across on here a 450D thread... To be honest the clarity wasnt what Im looking for. But I know I know its all about the glass. Well its a big factor at least. But my eyes are sharp and I can tell the difference between clarity.

Then I did a google image search... I stumbled across a Nikon D80. Before I came across Canon I was a Nikon fan. Yeah I know. But something about that brand keep tugging at me...

So which is better the D80 or the 40D?... I know theyre the same with MPs but clarity.




  
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Jul 25, 2008 13:57 |  #105

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This weekend Iam looking to purchase a new camera. I've been dancing around the thought of either getting a Nikon or a Canon... But since I've been here on this site I have become a true beliver in Canon. Some of the shots that I've seen are very exceptional.

For the past 2 years I've been playing around with an 8mp Kodak, and now thats not good enough for me. In about 5 months I'll be ready to by the Canon 1Ds MarkIII and a marco and a telephoto lense with it.

But in the mean time I want to get a camera that is at least 10 to 12 mps. Im not sure whats the best and what to get.

So I'm here asking you all what is the BEST 10-12mp Canon that I can get for a decent price? I'm looking for something that is a little under $1,000.

I was looking at the Canon Rebel XSI but Im not sure. I want something that will take professional quality photos.

What do you all say? Any ideas or info?

Thank you.

that's a nice camera and expensive also, here are my thoughts.
taking professional quality photos dnt rely on expensive camera, or lenses.
xsi is a very nice camera, i have one for my wife. i use 40D for sports, portraits pretty much everything. i say for the budget that you have go for 30D or 40D. xsi is like a small 40D minus the fps, size. good luck


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