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May 20, 2008 19:27 |  #46

-Bad backgrounds can ruin a good shot.

-Shoot all sorts of angles, and keep shooting.

Think about what angles would be best, & concentrate on those during the short period of the best light.
Take along some 30X40" white art board in case you need to put a reflection where you need it.

Did I miss anything?

Shoot RAW if you can. And, get the exposure right.
First set the f-stop & shutter speed you need. Then adjust the ISO. Need an exposure crutch?

How the subject affects the exposure & why manual keeps me worry free: Post #47

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May 21, 2008 08:05 |  #47

Great info! Thanks!


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May 21, 2008 21:01 |  #48

Which reminds me, I just added this bike under a white, translucent canopy in post # 18.

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May 21, 2008 22:51 |  #49

Nice bike! That gives me a good idea of what to shoot for. (no pun intended)

Thanks for all the great links and whatnot. You've been a big help.


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Jul 14, 2008 06:44 |  #50

this thread is so useful, thank you for sharing all the tips :)


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Aug 18, 2008 09:08 |  #51

When you're shooting panning/rolling/rig shots, you still need to pay attention to the backgrounds & highlights in the cars. #1 works for me in togish1's 08 civic si and sarah

First shoot with moving cars need advice.

SHOW US YOUR BEST PANNING SHOT

Look at SF David's rolling shot in #3 here. The light & reflections in the body are great, & the background doesn't compete with the car for attention. And yes, the rear is a bit OOF, but that doesn't bother me at all.

The Simple Art of an Automotive Rolling Shot: The 10 Rules by Josh Mackey. (external link)

Adding a feeling of motion when shooting moving cars at night - The 2008 Woodward Dream Cruise threads:

Warming up for the Dream Cruise.

More on-the-road Dream Cruise shots from Thursday nite.

Dream Cruise cont'd - Friday

The official Dream Cruise - Saturday

And a few left over shots:
Add your Dream Crusin' thoughts & images.

2009: Working up to some motion blur on Tuesday: "Nightmare Cruise" with a happy ending.

More links to my 2009 cruise threads are in:
Dream Cruise at the Athens Coney Island

Faces in the Dream Cruise 2010 - Friday

Dream Cruise 2010 - Sitting on the curb...

2011:
Dream Cruise Tuesday 2011

Wednesday Dream Cruise 2011

Dream Cruise 2011 Wrap Up

2014:
Michigan guys - It's time to shoot the "Pre Cruise"!

Pre-Cruise Car Porn

More from the "Pre Cruise" July 11th.

A few from Fridays "Pre Cruise". One week to go!

"Pre Cruise" Saturday 8/9/2014


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Aug 18, 2008 09:23 |  #52

Lazy photographers take note:
You can almost always get a good shot of a silver car in sunlight or with strobes.
You'll have to work much harder with black cars to make them look good. See the difference?


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Again: Scott Kelby in a studio. (external link)
If you have a garage with white walls, & you're clever, you can use them as "flats" to get similar results. Just light the walls instead of direct light on the car.

SF David has an excellent series with all three car colors here.

=====BLACK cars: in "Late light" are what work the best for me. Look at Anthony's (DonJuanMair) Focus ST images here: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1348781

OZS2KCA'S Ford GT here: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18291471
And here: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18307628

Ben in San Diego's pretty sunset shot.

And look at this one by BlueDemon. Too dark? Click on the eyeglasses & see what it looks like against the forum dark background.
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17924022

This one in sunlight looks pretty good. Note which side of the car the sunlight was coming from.
Black car in sunlight: A friend's EVO VIII

Itsed65's BMW X1 looks pretty good in some of these.

And these, too: Out to get the groceries and back in a flash!

But then look at how the better light makes the first image here more interesting: Carsofabq's 30sec night shots of a Riviera.

So "RULES" are just a starting point. You really need to connect your eyes to your brain & really SEE what's going on in the viewfinder, right?
Then, MOVE YOUR FEET!

My latest ride: 2011 Chevy Cruze Sedan LS

Black car hiding from the sunlight in images #2-5: 2007 Chevy HHR

Make the light & reflections work for you:

A "GREAT car": '69 Plymouth Road Runner 440

'50 Merc Sedan

Ok... black miata, 2nd attempt. C+C please...

synth19's images of a Scion FRS

Doc Fluty's pickup

Doc Fluty's black pickup again: New take on an old favorite

Another pickup in nice light: 4x4 F-150

SVTmaniac's Viper shot: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1185890

My baby

SF David's "postercar" shots that are actually worth putting on a poster!: The late 80s/early 90s postercar: Ferrari Testarossa

Hecks's shoot of black/blue/white cars: Car Show At Airport

1013mm's Ferrari looks pretty good for a black car in sunlight: https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=13707608#po​st13707608

int2str's "Winter" shoot - BMW 135i

salleen's thread: Mercedes - E Classe Cabrio 2011

Trek_203's Porsche

Harley Davidson Bike Pics

Dare's first shot here: My new Bike!

And in case you missed it in the first post, here's an example of a black 300 in a studio posted by spot9 in The automotive strobist setup pic thread.

An "Arrest-me-now-Orange" Beast!

'83 Camaro Z28 Pro Street 502 Part #1

UBNXOUS Beast! part #2.

Agnu's GT-500 shoot: Super Snake! It's Orange, too...

====== RED cars:

SF David's Red 911 SC

Highlights make rig shots look great, too. Look at Jimmy's shot: https://photography-on-the.net …p=16283632&post​count=9712

Some shots of Jim's '68 AMX

Blown '37 Willys - A Beauty with a Beast!

'70 Mustang Fastback

'40 Ford Deluxe Coupe - "TAPDOUT"

Fat Buff Guy's red 56 GMC

bjammmin's Viper GTS ACR shots.

Jaren's edit: https://photography-on-the.net …p=16168567&post​count=1948

Ferosso's shots of a F Jaguar.

====== White cars:

MHO's shot: Photochoped Audi S5

VisualEchos Last Light (GTR content)

WireWess's shot of a white Renault Megane RS http://www.wephoto.nl/​publicaties/meganeRS2.​jpg (external link)

wriemis's shot of a Impreza: https://photography-on-the.net …p=17181944&post​count=2493

00formula's first shot posted here. The nice late light rollin' shot of a Vette shows off all the contours of it's body.

Reno_LV's shot: 400bhp Audi TTRS

jeremycliff's Matte Pearl White E46 BMW 330i + Sunset

VisualEchos's white Nissan 240 shots.

Reno_LV's white Honda: http://1.bp.blogspot.c​om …3iqRC-zPwFw/s1600/076.jpg (external link)

Aaron's (quickster) images, mostly from the shadowed side, just before sunset: Super Street - Jimbo's LHD GTR R34

vegasboy's strobed white BMW: https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=12915609#po​st12915609

I've pointed out white cars with highlights. But does every image have to have them? While I think that they make a shot more interesting, IF the lighting shows the contour of the body, then the image works. Look at mlech's second image here: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1317792

It's not just for cars. Jay has some great light on #8 here: (Air) Great Light and a Nice Mix

Not so hot show shots:
'66 Ford Shelby GT-350 clone

'37 Ford Roadster kit 305

'37 Chevy 350

====== Rig shots:

There's a whole 252 page thread on them here: Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

They can even look amazing taken in a garage. But I'd like to point out that finding a good background, looking at the reflections in the body & waiting for the light is just as important with them. Look at quickster's recent shots here: https://photography-on-the.net …=16509015&postc​ount=10042

====== Misc:

Farm equipment can look great, too. Look at jmalonear's images here.

Blended individual strobe images in BlackEJ8's Camaro shot.

BarrySchwartz's shot of a silver Mazdaspeed 3 in late light. (external link)

A very nice & clean shot by cbjetboy: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1096837

Scott's (TheReal7) thread: NO paint at all! Even a "Rat" can look GREAT in late light! Bare It All

Silver car in the evening with strobe: quickster's thread.

And here's another one of his where it really stands out from the background: Lexus IS

And here's the difference between shooting in a studio & shooting outside, to illustrate what we all should be going for. You get to put all the highlights right where you want them.


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Aug 18, 2008 15:37 |  #53

Frank,
I read this thread before going out to the dream cruise this past Friday and Saturday. I only had the afternoons free to be there and had a heck of a time taking static shots. I had to deal with reflections ,shadows, bad backgrounds,people sitting next to or standing by their cars. I put my Tokina 12-24 on my 40D and got in close and filled the frame.What I ended up with was some wierd views and angles and not a whole lot of distracting backgrounds. I am happy with a few of the shots but just not sure if I filled the frame too much. If I could I would like to post a couple to see what you think.
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Aug 21, 2008 08:29 |  #54

Hi, Mike.

I had to deal with reflections ,shadows, bad backgrounds,people sitting next to or standing by their cars.

The last two days were a real zoo out there, weren't they? Next year I'll start at least the week before!

I missed your comment when you posted it 2 days ago. Why not start a thread of your images & post the links to it here? Explain the problems out there & how you solved them & see what comments you get.
I think it will be a good addition to this thread.


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Sep 02, 2008 23:03 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #55

great info, im hoping to shoot a friends mini before the summers over,, but the site i have in mind is my flying site, which is atop a land fill. this means i will have blue sky for backround and nothing to block the sun, i was thinking as it gets dark to shoot, any tips on setting for use with only tripod and pop up flash? thanks
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Sep 02, 2008 23:35 |  #56

nother to block the sun,

? If you mean "nothing", then you need low clouds or haze or wait 'till the sun sets.
I didn't use a flash for any of the cars in this thread. As for exposure, this is what I use:
For a good starting point, first set the f-stop & shutter speed you need. Then adjust the ISO.
Need an exposure crutch?

Since exposure can be "iffy" the first times you try to use that in low light, I suggest that you shoot a few frames, without moving the cam/tripod, above & below the reading you get. Then you'll have the option to blend in different exposures in post processing if you need to.
Level out the exposure using a selection & a Layer Mask. PS, see post #9; PS Elements in Post # 14
A question about sky and the Airport runway shoot link in my post.


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Sep 03, 2008 10:09 |  #57

A few words on SHARPENING:

There's no rule that says that you have to sharpen all of an image?

Sometimes selecting just the most important thing is the way to go. One benefit is that it puts more attention on the car instead of the background. Another is that you get a smaller file size.

I like the Polygonal Lasso Tool for that, feathered about 20px & used at a distance just around the outside of the important parts after resizing for the web.

I used USM @ 100, 0.8, 1 for this example which is a little overdone for illustration purposes:


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Sep 03, 2008 10:57 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #58

cool thanks! if the car is there tonight i may test a few setting tho if this overcasting haze doesnt go away.. blaaaa
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Sep 03, 2008 12:32 |  #59

Sometimes that overcast breaks just enough at sunset, so don't give up until it's too dark to shoot.

And if it is too dark, then try something like this:
Malibu in the snow.


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Wow thanks for the techniques
Very Interesting!


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