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Sep 17, 2008 11:51 |  #91
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I know what I'm doing and I do need more than just the center to work. In more than just broad daylight.

These guys work in studios alot, sometimes in low, moody light too and they select various AF points, not just center. I have assisted on these shoots and seen it first hand. Maybe practice a bit more?


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Sep 17, 2008 11:52 |  #92

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i seriously can't stop laughing :) some people on this forum are just too funny. i really hope that Canon pays you well...

did you cash your nikon check yet ;)?

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Sep 17, 2008 11:53 |  #93

2112 wrote in post #6325908 (external link)
I have assisted on these shoots and seen it first hand. Maybe practice a bit more?

Getting the Perrier water doesn't count when you consider cdi is actually the one taking the photos. You should really be more mindful of the comments you make towards the actual shooters on these boards.


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Sep 17, 2008 11:54 |  #94

2112 wrote in post #6325908 (external link)
These guys work in studios alot, sometimes in low, moody light too and they select various AF points, not just center. I have assisted on these shoots and seen it first hand. Maybe practice a bit more?

The real world doesn't have modeling lamps. Oh and my primary camera is a 1D II.


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Sep 17, 2008 11:55 |  #95

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Said it before and I will say it again...if you need 51 AF points to get a shot in focus, you should really get a new profession or hobby. I dont use a 5D, but every pro I know who does gets razor sharp pics all the time because they know what they are doing.

shoot a wedding with nine-point AF. it works, but out of the 1500 pictures you take in a day, a good handful will be misses and "every pro" knows that sometimes playing your luck like that could mean the difference between getting the shot you want and getting the shot that the camera resolves before the shutter is released. it's not a need, it just part of the tool that helps you do your work more efficiently and consistently. if this wasn't the case, we'd all be using 20D's because i've seen decent wedding work done with those. all lack of skill by the photographers if they want a better camera body right?

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Sep 17, 2008 11:56 |  #96

who uses all the focus points anyhow? use the center only.. focus, recompose, shoot..


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Sep 17, 2008 11:57 |  #97

2112 wrote in post #6325908 (external link)
These guys work in studios alot, sometimes in low, moody light too and they select various AF points, not just center. I have assisted on these shoots and seen it first hand. Maybe practice a bit more?

You can use live view also:D:D:D


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Sep 17, 2008 11:57 |  #98

LOL not likely there are many ready to switch that are Canon owners rather thaan flamers.


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Sep 17, 2008 11:58 |  #99

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who uses all the focus points anyhow? use the center only.. focus, recompose, shoot..

I don't use all the focus points of my 1D, but I do use quite a few of them. It's generally the far left points that go neglected because I don't rotate clockwise for verticals.

Focus-recompose, as I said before, doesn't work all the time.


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smcclelland wrote in post #6325895 (external link)
2112: you seem to be the most insecure having to resort to a thread trying to usher the disappointed users out the door to their Nikon counterparts and constantly making attempts at belittling anyone who even tries to speak up for the Nikon crowd. Lets face it, Canon has NOTHING... let me repeat that... NOTHING right now that holds a light to what Nikon offers in their bodies. As far as bang for the buck and features goes, Nikon actually has their finger on the pulse of what their shooters wanted and were looking for coming from a D200/D2 background. What has Canon done in light of the 1D2 and 5D users?

Well lets see...Canon was the first company to even think about offering a full frame digital at an affordable price. Nikon didnt even have a full frame until very recently and dont even make their own sensors, Sony makes them. Canon beats Nikon in both image quality and lenses, the TWO MOST IMPORTANT parts of the final product. Nikon needs to load their cameras up with things that really dont make for a better final products hoping people will be amazed by features instead of image quality and buy their product. Sorry, Canon still wins.


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Sep 17, 2008 12:01 |  #101

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Well lets see...Canon was the first company to even think about offering a full frame digital at an affordable price. Nikon didnt even have a full frame until very recently and dont even make their own sensors, Sony makes them. Canon beats Nikon in both image quality and lenses, the TWO MOST IMPORTANT parts of the final product. Nikon needs to load their cameras up with things that really dont make for a better final products hoping people will be amazed by features instead of image quality and buy their product. Sorry, Canon still wins.

That was in the past. Since the D300/D3/D700, image quality has been pretty much even between the brands.

Canon doesn't have the IQ or full frame advantage anymore (affordable or otherwise). It doesn't matter who did it first - it matters who does it best.


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Sep 17, 2008 12:01 |  #102

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The whole cross-productizing of video recording into DSLR's is such a wasted feature when you consider the 5D being a prosumer/pro level DSLR; if Canon had of put a better effort in and listened to its users a little closer they might have been able to offer a more solid feature set rather than a gimmick.


All things being fair it was Nikon that was first to the market with video on a DSLR. Canon was forced to follow the trend because they got to keep up with the features of the competition (even video which was/is being looked out as a odd feature on a DSLR). Reality wise Canon and Nikon were working on getting video into their DSLRs at the same time. Nikon was first to the market by a bit and announced their unit first.

When the product people had their meeting and the question was asked "What are the 3 most imporant features we hear people as for and need to include them in the 5DMKII?" When I say people I refer to what the majority of the camera users say (not just Pro photogs that use only DSLRs). I'm talking about regular people that want a nice DSLR than can ocasionally take some video. I'm sure the fact that RED is working on a truly professional solution for high end photo and video also made Canon bring this to the market. I'm sure a similar process happened at Canon.


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Sep 17, 2008 12:01 |  #103

Spoken like a true inexperienced shooter. Moving on..


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smcclelland wrote in post #6325932 (external link)
Getting the Perrier water doesn't count when you consider cdi is actually the one taking the photos. You should really be more mindful of the comments you make towards the actual shooters on these boards.

I AM a shooter and as one, you should know that the best usually learn by assisting very good photographers earlier on in their career. Unless of course you are just a hobbyist.


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Sep 17, 2008 12:03 |  #105

Actually many of the best here have developed their own style through their own learnings and adventures. That's what makes photography an art is that each photographer develops their own way of interpreting their surroundings or composing their shot. Simply tagging along behind someone doesn't make you the next greatest thing, they can teach you to fish but it doesn't mean you'll be successful at catching anything.


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