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1D vs 30 or 50D for 2nd body

 
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Oct 08, 2008 14:19 |  #1

So I'm about to take the plunge and buy a used 1D MkllN and this got me looking at prices for the original 1D (the 1DMKI, not the MKII or IIN). My question is whether or not that would be a better 2nd body compared to the 30D that I already own or even a 50D. What interests me about the 1D is the weather sealing and what I assume is a better autofocusing system than either the 30 or 50D. I don't know if this is true or not and I'm finding it difficult to find any information on that. I know that the 50D has an improved autofocus system over the 30D, but I have no idea how that would compare to the 1D or how the 30D compares to the 1D. A 2nd body would mainly for used as a remote and also for use with a 2nd lens for field sports such as soccer, football etc. I shoot sports almost exclusively so please keep that in mind. I will also be upgrading to Canon L glass if that makes a difference as to whether or not the 1D would have a better autofocus than a 30 or 50D. The 50D interests me due to the improved high ISO performance. I don't know yet if that's worth upgrading my 30D to. The few samples I've seen have looked pretty good, but I'm still waiting for more people to test that out to be sure it's all that Canon claims it is. Having recently shot indoor soccer, this would be a valuable improvement if it pans out. I'd like to hear some specific pros and cons to the 1D. Particularly from anyone that has also used a 30D. I do plan on sticking with whatever I decide on for quite a while.


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Oct 08, 2008 15:06 |  #2

Maybe you can draw at least some of your conclusions from a quick "test" I tried earlier today. The four shots were all taken with a 600/4 IS and a 1.4x T/C. All using aperture priority at f/8. No post processing other than resizing the RAW file in DPP (to the same framed shot) and sharpness set at 3. ISO was 400
The shots in order were 30D, 1DMkII, 5D and finally the 50D
They were quick shots without MLU and simple one shot AF.
I accept that each one could be done better but time was at a premium.
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Oct 09, 2008 14:17 |  #3

If the 1D-MkIIN is going to be your primary camera, then the 1D is the best choice for a backup. Why? Because it uses the same battery, so you won't have to carry around two different sets of batteries and chargers. In addition, it handles the same as the MkII so you won't be switching between completely different cameras. And finally, the speed and AF of the 1D blows away and XXD camera Canon has ever made. The original 1D is a fantastic camera and a bargain at today's prices.




  
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Oct 09, 2008 14:51 as a reply to  @ jayadeff's post |  #4

Yeah having the same batteries would be nice as right now I have 2 different ones between my 30D and 350D. The biggest reason for me to go with a 1D would be the speed of the autofocus. I wasn't sure how an orignal 1D would compare to a newer, yet non-professional body. Thanks. How well does the 1D perform at ISO 3200?


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Oct 09, 2008 15:05 |  #5

The highest I've used the 1D is 1600. If you shoot RAW files (which are about the same size as a 30D fine JPG) and overexpose a bit, the images are still pretty good. SInce I use the 1D mostly with the 100mm f/2.0 EF, I can run it at lower ISO than my MkII which always has an f/2.8 lens on it.




  
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Oct 09, 2008 15:27 as a reply to  @ jayadeff's post |  #6

I see. The reason I ask is that when I recently shot an indoor soccer game with my 30D at ISO 3200 the best I could get was 1/400 at f2.8 which was still a full stop underexposed IIRC. This is why I find the 50D so tempting. I keep seeing very good results even at ISO 6400. If the speed of the autofocus was even close to the 1D it would make my decision really easy. Although I do have my eye on an 85mm f1.8 and 135mm f2.0 :)


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