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Nov 02, 2008 09:55 |  #1

Looking through a bunch of resources on the web, I'm thinking this may be a Brown Recluse my wife found in the basement closet this morning. Haven't seen a spider like this around the house in awhile. Can any of you spider experts here indentify this criter? Going to call the Bugman in the morning.

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Nov 02, 2008 10:30 |  #2

doesn't look like a recluse, but it could be a Hobo spider, which is almost as bad. kill it.


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Nov 02, 2008 10:40 |  #3

squirl033 wrote in post #6608619 (external link)
doesn't look like a recluse, but it could be a Hobo spider, which is almost as bad. kill it.

No V shape pattern on the abdomen which I think would rule out a hobo.


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Nov 02, 2008 10:44 |  #4

I would say judging by pictures on the web like here (external link) it sure looks like a brown recluse.


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Nov 02, 2008 21:31 as a reply to  @ reneethomas's post |  #5

Look at the eyes, they are completely different.

I suggest posting it to bugguide.net instead of just the photo forum, I know many are on both, but it'd be the most educational if you also posted locality data.

Also, IME if you see it hanging out, there is no way it's a recluse, they're 1) reclusive and 2) faster than greased lightnin.

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Nov 03, 2008 02:23 |  #6
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According to wiki, it is a brown recluse, you have some guts to photo it

The hobo spider has texture to its body, the brown recluse is just smooth




  
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Nov 03, 2008 19:20 as a reply to  @ RichSoansPhotos's post |  #7

http://entomology.unl.​edu …piders/brown_re​cluse2.jpg (external link)

The eyes, book lungs and reproductive structures are used to ID spiders. Pentaxonomists need not apply.

I caught 20 or so Loxosceles reclusa not too long ago for some research, and I'm fine. They're not that bad, but it is why I say the eyes are wrong.




  
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Nov 03, 2008 20:17 |  #8

400dabuser wrote in post #6613156 (external link)
According to wiki, it is a brown recluse, you have some guts to photo it

The hobo spider has texture to its body, the brown recluse is just smooth

It would take guts to catch and hold it. not much risk to photograph it. it's not a king cobra after all.



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Nov 04, 2008 02:35 |  #9

I agree with esotericman, the eyes are different.

Maybe a Southern House Spider. :confused: http://bugguide.net …view/26400/bgim​age?from=0 (external link)


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Nov 04, 2008 07:38 |  #10

TXCANONX wrote in post #6620255 (external link)
I agree with esotericman, the eyes are different.

Maybe a Southern House Spider. :confused: http://bugguide.net …view/26400/bgim​age?from=0 (external link)

That's what it looks like to me also.



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Nov 04, 2008 13:18 |  #11

Looks like a brown recluse or near cousin (i.e. Dead) to me.


  
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Nov 04, 2008 15:43 |  #12

It's a female Southern House Spider, Kukulkania hibernalis, which appears as Filistata hibernalis in older literature. Notice how there are four pairs of eyes gathered into a little turret in the middle of the cephalothorax (the body segment that the legs are attached to). In sicariid spiders, such as Loxosceles, there are three pairs of eyes arranged around the edge of the forward part of the cephalothorax, one pair on each side and one in front, leaving the top of the cephalothorax smoothly rounded.

The internet doesn't work well for identification, even of vertebrates such as birds, though you can usually find illustrations, once you know what you've got. There are no substitutes for a good identification manual for id-ing invertebrates. Finding the books can be a problem, though. Public libraries often have very limited holdings. (Interest in the books tends to be relatively limited , and they tend to be somewhat expensive.) The nearest university library will usually be a better bet.

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Nov 05, 2008 11:46 |  #13

Creepy!


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Nov 05, 2008 20:05 |  #14

I wouldn't kill it, release it back outdoors away from your home.


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