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Nov 02, 2008 05:20 |  #406

Wowzers! And what magnification does that achieve?


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Nov 02, 2008 20:42 as a reply to  @ photobitz's post |  #407

Dan
with the 50mm FD lens I can achieve the following Mags
2.2X at 100mm on the 100-400 lens
4.2X at 200mm
6.3X at 300mm
7.2X at 400mm

28mm FD lens
3.9X at 100mm (heavy vignetting due to max aperture f/2.8 on 28mm FD lens)
6.3X at 200mm (vignetting due to max aperture f/2.8 on 28mm FD lens)
8.4X at 300mm
12X at 400mm

here are some sample images taken.
Each division on the steel ruler is 1mm
2.2X at 100mm, 50mm reversed FD.

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7.2X at 400mm, 50mm reversed FD.
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3.9X at 100mm, 28mm reversed FD lens
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12X at 400mm, 28mm reversed FD lens
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Nov 02, 2008 23:36 |  #408

I see light is still an issue with this.


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Nov 03, 2008 03:25 |  #409

Samdiver74 wrote in post #6606237 (external link)
It really isn't too bad, yeah it is heavy but so was the other set-up (Sigma lens) especially with the 580EX slung to the left or right.
At least now I have the 580EX attached to the Tripod ring
FD lens really isn't that heavy.
Here's a pic of the set-up



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hahaha whats that weight?about 30 pounds :eek::lol: the mpe-65 weights just shy of 2 pounds.whats that lens weight?


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Nov 03, 2008 03:35 |  #410

Samdiver74 wrote in post #6611736 (external link)
Dan
with the 50mm FD lens I can achieve the following Mags
2.2X at 100mm on the 100-400 lens
4.2X at 200mm
6.3X at 300mm
7.2X at 400mm

28mm FD lens
3.9X at 100mm (heavy vignetting due to max aperture f/2.8 on 28mm FD lens)
6.3X at 200mm (vignetting due to max aperture f/2.8 on 28mm FD lens)
8.4X at 300mm
12X at 400mm

here are some sample images taken.
Each division on the steel ruler is 1mm
2.2X at 100mm, 50mm reversed FD.
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7.2X at 400mm, 50mm reversed FD.
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3.9X at 100mm, 28mm reversed FD lens

12X at 400mm, 28mm reversed FD lens

the shots look very soft?


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Nov 03, 2008 05:11 |  #411

photobitz wrote in post #6612705 (external link)
I see light is still an issue with this.

Yeah it is an issue primarily due to the stand off/working distance from subject to lens, at higher mags it is seriously close to the subject, to the point of being difficult to get good light in there to illuminate the subject.
Not to mention the 100-400 is a light hungry beast anyway.

Bare in mind that these shots were taken inside with very little ambient light only the TV on and a small reading lamp.
hence the reason why the images look a tad bit soft.

photobitz wrote in post #6612705 (external link)
hahaha whats that weigh? about 30 pounds :eek::lol: the mpe-65 weights just shy of 2 pounds.whats that lens weight?

It is no different in weight than if I had the 580EX, better beamer, 100-400mm, 20D mounted together and was out shooting Birds, it all comes down to what you have available and what you are comfortable shooting with, I have the diversity of being able to shoot quite a few different subjects with a modular set-up, I'm not limited to just macro.

If I had spent $1600 (or should I say 1600 quid in your case) on the MPE and MT-24EX :rolleyes: I am sorry to say Scott but then I am stuck shooting macro, Don't get me wrong it is a great set-up, I am well aware of that. I just don't have an infinite income and Macro photography ain't paying my bills.


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Nov 03, 2008 09:54 |  #412

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Nov 03, 2008 09:56 |  #413

Samdiver74 wrote in post #6613472 (external link)
It is no different in weight than if I had the 580EX, better beamer, 100-400mm, 20D mounted together and was out shooting Birds, it all comes down to what you have available and what you are comfortable shooting with, I have the diversity of being able to shoot quite a few different subjects with a modular set-up, I'm not limited to just macro.

If I had spent $1600 (or should I say 1600 quid in your case) on the MPE and MT-24EX :rolleyes: I am sorry to say Scott but then I am stuck shooting macro, Don't get me wrong it is a great set-up, I am well aware of that. I just don't have an infinite income and Macro photography ain't paying my bills.

well you have a bad ass lens..i have wanted the 100-400mm for a long time.but if i wanted to shoot macro i would save up and get the right gear..not cheape tho is it..but that lens you got is the ****..one day il be getting one of them..shot any birds lately?got any stunning shots to link us using the 100-400mm, do u use 2x telel converter?

how much does the 100-400mm lens weight?

u make money from photography?wish i did


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Nov 03, 2008 18:33 as a reply to  @ macro junkie's post |  #414

Scott
Here are some images using the 100-400 lens, however being as this is a thread showing us your macro rig, I don't want to take the thread off topic.
But please feel free to browse my smugmug account.
(Weight of 100-400 lens is 3lbs according to B&H website)

Dragonfly shot using 100-400 and Kenko Extensions tubes
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …594_vT9Xb#34878​7635_n4oPw (external link)

Space shuttle Discovery May 31st 2008 Launch
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …903_8oNi6#30543​2141_kqbg4 (external link)

White Egret using 100-400
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …y/4248741#25612​6081_PABhs (external link)

Right now I use just the 100-400 but I want to get the 1.4X converter at some point, with a 2X converter I would loose 2 stops of light so with the 100-400 at 400mm (f/5.6) I would effectively have f/11 available and beyond but nothing below such as f/4.5, f/5.6 or f/8.0

I do get paid for the occasional photo shoot and I have sold a few fine art prints and I have had images published in Hotbike magazine, In fact I am due to have another bike I shot featured soon, but Photography isn't my career, I certainly can't live off the earnings to date, I just enjoy it as a hobby like most people.
I inspect bridges for a living.
I just want a small influx of cash so I can buy more equipment such as the MPE and MT-24EX.

The whole reason for me posting the shots of the 100-400 was so that others who are trying out Macro photography can see there are numerous ways to achieve a result.
Over the last few years I have learned a lot about what works and what doesn't and I feel ready to make the jump to the MPE and MT-24EX when funds will allow.


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Nov 04, 2008 03:28 |  #415

Samdiver74 wrote in post #6617832 (external link)
Scott
Here are some images using the 100-400 lens, however being as this is a thread showing us your macro rig, I don't want to take the thread off topic.
But please feel free to browse my smugmug account.
(Weight of 100-400 lens is 3lbs according to B&H website)

Dragonfly shot using 100-400 and Kenko Extensions tubes
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …594_vT9Xb#34878​7635_n4oPw (external link)

Space shuttle Discovery May 31st 2008 Launch
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …903_8oNi6#30543​2141_kqbg4 (external link)

White Egret using 100-400
http://allanmorrisphot​ography.smugmug.com …y/4248741#25612​6081_PABhs (external link)

Right now I use just the 100-400 but I want to get the 1.4X converter at some point, with a 2X converter I would loose 2 stops of light so with the 100-400 at 400mm (f/5.6) I would effectively have f/11 available and beyond but nothing below such as f/4.5, f/5.6 or f/8.0

I do get paid for the occasional photo shoot and I have sold a few fine art prints and I have had images published in Hotbike magazine, In fact I am due to have another bike I shot featured soon, but Photography isn't my career, I certainly can't live off the earnings to date, I just enjoy it as a hobby like most people.
I inspect bridges for a living.
I just want a small influx of cash so I can buy more equipment such as the MPE and MT-24EX.

The whole reason for me posting the shots of the 100-400 was so that others who are trying out Macro photography can see there are numerous ways to achieve a result.
Over the last few years I have learned a lot about what works and what doesn't and I feel ready to make the jump to the MPE and MT-24EX when funds will allow.

the shuttle shots blew me away..and the dragon shots are great..you sure know how to use that lens dont you..1 day i will buy that lens:)


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DA Gallery where i sell prints - http://macrojunkie.dev​iantart.com/ (external link)
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Nov 04, 2008 04:48 |  #416

macro junkie wrote in post #6620407 (external link)
the shuttle shots blew me away..and the dragon shots are great..you sure know how to use that lens dont you..1 day i will buy that lens:)

Thank you Scott, I appreciate it.


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Nov 05, 2008 20:21 |  #417

The sima bracket has the cold shoe, but no tripod screw. Your extension chord does not have any tightening knob or switch (the same as on actual 430ex or 580ex flash). So I am wondering how the flash is holding up on the bracket, just by friction? Is it secure.

I am seriously considering to go for svb-1 and the oc-3 cord, hence wanted to know.

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I finally took a picture of my rig
Canon XTI with 100mm Macro, Kenko extension tudes(12mm,20mm & 36mm), off shoe cord, speedlite 420EX, ET67B hood,Sima SVB-1 Flash Bracket & homemade diffuser.

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and here are the results

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Nov 15, 2008 17:40 |  #418

Here's mine. Newly minted this AM.

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Nov 19, 2008 04:13 |  #419

friz wrote in post #6693776 (external link)
Here's mine. Newly minted this AM.

show us some pics:)


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Nov 19, 2008 20:47 |  #420

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show us some pics:)

You asked for it!

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