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How many are going with the 40D after reading 50d reviews?

 
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Nov 03, 2008 17:07 |  #31

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but isnt this another argument against the 50D? if its images will start to look softer after f8, then youve got a very small usable range of sharp f stops. what if you need a really large DOF, or want slower shutter speeds??

The image will start to look soft at 100%. The actual point at which the image starts to look soft depends on how you're viewing the image. The higher the resolution, the higher the "magnification" of the image when you're viewing it at 100%, and thus the lower the f-stop required before you see diffraction effects.

The 50D has sRAW1 which, at 7.1 megapixels, wouldn't show diffraction until f/11.

Crop cameras in general will show diffraction effects sooner than full-frame cameras when you view their images at 100%, at least until recently. The 5DmkII will show diffraction effects at f/11 because its pixel density is identical to that of the 8 megapixel 30D. But whether or not you'll see it in a print depends on how large you print and how close you look at the print.


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Nov 03, 2008 19:50 |  #32

I had a 40d, was thinking about a 50d, not because I wanted it, but because I was having the same issue a lot of people are having with the 40d and 85 L and I was looking for a replacement body of a different model to solve the issue. I just couldn't really understand the point of why I would be spending $1200 on (and this is my opinion) the same camera with more pixels crammed onto a small sensor. Once I saw some high iso comparisons, it really turned me off. I saved a bit of money by buying a used 5d instead. I feel like the 50d is just marketing and I wasn't about to buy into it... I feel like they released it early to stay hot in the game and keep Sony and Nikon off their back. I wish more R&D would have gone into it. I think it was released too soon. A more refined 50d would have been nice for a late Spring 2009 release. I feel like the x0D line is getting too consumerish. I'm not saying that because I am a 5d owner now, and I am no pro, but how much tech and bells and whistles do you need to pay for to take a decent picture? I think I prefer a camera with a bit less options to choose from. Keep it simple Canon.


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Nov 03, 2008 20:10 |  #33

not that i went to a 40D but got the 50D - today! Yes...
found out my 20D was mis-focus on the 85f1.8 in side by side test...

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Nov 03, 2008 21:48 |  #34

Brian1cj wrote in post #6618327 (external link)
I feel like the x0D line is getting too consumerish.

+1.
I like the crop factor but my next camera will likely be FF too.




  
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Nov 03, 2008 22:02 |  #35
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I reckon the original 5D is the smart buy at the moment- if only I could afford one!




  
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Nov 03, 2008 22:06 as a reply to  @ The_Camera_Poser's post |  #36

What now the crop cameras are no good? :(




  
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Nov 03, 2008 22:12 |  #37

Well, I'm always considering upgrading to the next model, as I have the 40D now. At this point, I don't think I'll upgrade at all. The 40D is a *STELLAR* camera. I'll wait for the 60D and see if canon smartens up and ditches the megapixel race and concentrates on more important stuff. I'd be thrilled if the 60D was 10MP. Or 8 for that matter.


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Nov 03, 2008 22:32 as a reply to  @ post 6616205 |  #38

I'm very pleased with my 50D. I purchased it before they posted their review. The more I use it the more I like it. I'm glad I got it.

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Nov 03, 2008 22:49 |  #39

Still torn on what my next jump should be. The 40d seems to be the buy I am leaning towards, but the whole 5D thing, and potential price drop as the new 5d becomes more readily available......Can't make up my mind.

50d is out of the picture, as I would, after reading a bit, rather have the 40d.




  
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Nov 04, 2008 05:14 as a reply to  @ Beach_house's post |  #40

FWIW, ive had the 50d for a little over two weeks and have done lots of testing and lens adjustments. In the end returned it and put the money towards a second 5D body.

While the 50D has many features that are attractive, forward and backward focusing adjustment, 6fps etc... what came out was more important.

I found the camera produced noisier images than i preferred and in comparison to my currrent 5d. Additionally, overall pixel sharpness was not there.


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Nov 04, 2008 07:15 |  #41

I think one has to compare what improvements you get for the difference in price. You can discount IQ as one one of the improvements, imo.

Micro adjustement (don't care... I don't have a problem. If my body/lenses are misadjusted, fix it, no bandaids).

Better back LCD... nice but not worth the premium for the 50D, imo

Maybe better AF (this is imprtant to me)

I am not in the least bit tempted to upgrade my 40D. Maybe, when the 60D comes out next year or go full frame.


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Nov 04, 2008 07:26 |  #42

gjl711 wrote in post #6616269 (external link)
How can anyone slam the new 5D. It's not even out yet.

It's easy: you can't or don't want to buy it, so just slam it! Same thing is applying to the 50D. The Dpreview is just adding to the fun.

I had the 40D and got the 50D. Both are great cameras. I got rid of the 40D and am very happy with the 50D. But what do I know? I only OWNED both cameras, which hardly makes me qualified to add an opinion! :)




  
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Nov 04, 2008 07:29 |  #43

Paul_B wrote in post #6616931 (external link)
this is really worth while reading, a Review,, read it through

http://www.amazon.com …3?_encoding=UTF​8&cdPage=3 (external link)

yes yes, it's from Amazon, but read it.

After reading that review, I would agree with it!




  
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Nov 04, 2008 08:00 |  #44

Southswede wrote in post #6620826 (external link)
It's easy: you can't or don't want to buy it, so just slam it! Same thing is applying to the 50D. The Dpreview is just adding to the fun.

Sad but seems to be true. :(

Southswede wrote in post #6620826 (external link)
I had the 40D and got the 50D. Both are great cameras. I got rid of the 40D and am very happy with the 50D. But what do I know? I only OWNED both cameras, which hardly makes me qualified to add an opinion! :)

I'm in the same boat. Just sold my 40D. It was a great camera but had a few things that bugged me. The 50D solved those problems and I'm a happt camper.


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Nov 04, 2008 08:41 |  #45

static808 wrote in post #6616856 (external link)
but isnt this another argument against the 50D? if its images will start to look softer after f8, then youve got a very small usable range of sharp f stops. what if you need a really large DOF, or want slower shutter speeds??

You're falling into the same stupid argument that most people do. It's not that higher density means that everything will look softer than lower density, just means that the extra information isn't adding anything. What do you do to make it sharp again? Simply get rid of that extra information. Down res it to 10.1 MP and it'll look the same as the 40d. When you use the camera at f5.6 or faster, then the extra MP will be helpful (in my case, that's just about every time). 100% crop sharpness is completely pointless anyway. Either you print the image as is or reduce the size for web. Either way, you never really use an image at 100% crop, and if you somehow are, i suggest you learn to take photos correctly/ go for a longer lens rather than a new camera.

And just for your info, the only (1.6x) camera not diffraction limited at f11 is the 10d. If you really want sharp 100% crops, get a 10d.


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