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Nov 17, 2008 09:22 |  #1

my post processing to date has been cropping. that's it. obviously to get the best results from my camera, a degree of post processing is necessary. i want to do the usual stuff everyone else does, colour correction, sharpening and a bit of object removal.

photoshop is very expensive for a home hobbyist. well at least the latest version is. What i am wondering is, is there a previous version, that is cheaper (much cheaper) than the current one, that has most of the functionality?

for instance ms office. 2000 had it all. 2003 was the same. 2007 has a tinsy bit more, but i know i can do everything i need with 2000.

is there a version of photoshop that has 'everything', and subsequent versions have just been prettier? which version is the office200 one?

and then the killer question, what would that version of photoshop give me, that gimp doesn't?;)


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Nov 17, 2008 10:50 |  #2

Well this may not be what you want to hear, but the cheapest way to do it, would be to get it right in camera, crop, exposure and composition, then your necessary PP is minimal to none. That would be the cheapest way to go :) Other than that, probably Elements or if you can find someone selling a used copy of a previous version. I am selling my CS3 Design premium for $400.00 Not sure what your budget is, but if you are interested let me know. But like I said Elements would be your best bet. I think under $100.00 Good luck.


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Nov 17, 2008 10:50 |  #3

Frankly, your best bet is probably Photoshop Elements 7. It's the newest, so it has the newest features (such as a very simple image removal feature), it has most of the features of the full Photoshop that a hobbyist might use, and it's inexpensive -- less than $100 US. What it has over GIMP is ease of use.


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Nov 17, 2008 11:01 |  #4

There's a certain amount of truth to what Cranium is saying here, but you have to decided just how much dark room work (PP) you really want to do.

Photoshop Elements is an excellent alternative to the full blown CS3 or CS4. Usually you can find it on sale for well under $100. There are also other alternatives that are cheaper and even free, but you basically get what you pay for.

If you are a student or somehow affiliated with education, you can usually get CS3 or CS4 for around $299.

But back to PP work - I always try to get things as close to a solid exposure, in camera, before any PP is done. But I also do wedding, event and a lot of fine art work which demands that I have maximum creative control and flexibility. I also shoot everything RAW, so ACR is my first stop in PP. My main toolbox is CS3, but my business can afford it. Even if I weren't shooting weddings though, I may still purchase it. Elements does have some pretty powerful features though itself.

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Well this may not be what you want to hear, but the cheapest way to do it, would be to get it right in camera, crop, exposure and composition, then your necessary PP is minimal to none. That would be the cheapest way to go :) Other than that, probably Elements or if you can find someone selling a used copy of a previous version. ......


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Nov 17, 2008 12:12 as a reply to  @ sapearl's post |  #5

Elements is selling here in the UK for slightly under £70 right now. I'd say it will be plenty to be getting on with without spending a fortune on CS4.

Older versions of CS can be found at more sensible prices, although they might still be more than you are willing to spend. I am still using PS v7 and theres nothing it cannot do.

But before you decide to spend anything, have a closer look at GIMP and Picassa. These are both free download post processing programmes. Yes, I did say free! One or other might tide you over until you have a better idea about what you might need in the future.


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Nov 17, 2008 12:29 |  #6

Right Cranium Imaging wrote in post #6704017 (external link)
Well this may not be what you want to hear, but the cheapest way to do it, would be to get it right in camera, crop, exposure and composition, then your necessary PP is minimal to none. That would be the cheapest way to go :) Other than that, probably Elements or if you can find someone selling a used copy of a previous version. I am selling my CS3 Design premium for $400.00 Not sure what your budget is, but if you are interested let me know. But like I said Elements would be your best bet. I think under $100.00 Good luck.

ohh I quite agree, it's what I had to do with film after all, and i don't plan on letting digital make me lazy, knowing I can tidy things later.

I went to a car show last week, and the indoor lighting was impossible to sort out (with my knowlege of the camera) - there was even a canon stand, and i was chatting to one of the reps about it.

then there is the problem of the photo looking ok on the camera, but rubbish on screen. particularly with bright sun light when you can't see much.

and of course object removal, a pylon ruining a landscape.

i do shoot raw, so i need to do something with the pictures

anyway.............

so elements it is. of course i will pay £ for it, not those funny $ things:lol::lol::lol:
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Nov 17, 2008 14:45 |  #7

Look on the bright side. Elements will only cost you a few pounds. Photoshop costs tons.


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Nov 17, 2008 22:04 |  #8

iof wrote in post #6705446 (external link)
Look on the bright side. Elements will only cost you a few pounds. Photoshop costs tons.

Ha, funny pun :)


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Nov 18, 2008 05:56 as a reply to  @ Right Cranium Imaging's post |  #9

If you can get your hands on Photoshop 7, it will do pretty much everything you need. It won't allow you to upgrade to CS versions, but you will find it quite easy to convert to CS3 if you want to later... there's not much of a learniing curve from PS 7 to CS3, just more tools. No Raw processing though.
You can do that from the camera software.

I have PS7 on my desktop at home, and use it for most of my processing except when I need some of the tools in CS3, laptop has CS3 and work has CS4, no probs with files interchanging.

I'm afraid I find PS elements very restrictive, but then I'm a graphic designer by trade, lol.


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Nov 18, 2008 07:20 |  #10

As others have said Elements is an excellent tool for the money. IF youwant a full blooded version, and can get hold of it, you might want to consider PS7. I was using it until just a short while ago, and only upgraded to CS3 because PS7 couldn't handle the RAW files from my 40D without converting them to DNG.


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Nov 19, 2008 09:34 |  #11

".......and only upgraded to CS3 because PS7 couldn't handle the RAW files from my 40D without converting them to DNG".

But Sorarse, that's why God gave us DPP.


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Nov 19, 2008 10:01 |  #12

Photoshop Elements 7
I have cs2 and recently got elements 7 from a client I am teaching to use it and find myself doing all of my edits in elements very rarely do I find something it wont do.
Add noise ninja and the free action for layer masks and it does everything most people really need.


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Nov 19, 2008 15:30 |  #13

strmrdr wrote in post #6717676 (external link)
Photoshop Elements 7
I have cs2 and recently got elements 7 from a client I am teaching to use it and find myself doing all of my edits in elements very rarely do I find something it wont do.
Add noise ninja and the free action for layer masks and it does everything most people really need.

Where are the layer mask options found? :confused:
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Where are the layer mask options found? :confused:
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use the instructions for 6 but change the 6 to a 7 in the directory names.
ie: \7.0\Photo Creations\photo effects


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Nov 19, 2008 16:10 |  #15

smart curves is really nice also
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