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Nov 20, 2008 17:33 |  #1

Any suggestions why this picture turned out like this. I had numerous others turn out the same way. I tried everything I could think of to no avail. i had excellent sunlight at my back. Below is the EXIF info

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File size: 220115 bytes (1536x1024, 1.1bpp, 21x)
EXIF Summary: 1/320s f/4.0 ISO400 260mm

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Equipment Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N

Image-Specific Properties:

Image Orientation: Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution: 72 dpi
Vertical Resolution: 72 dpi
Image Created: 2008:11:15 15:06:45
Exposure Time: 1/320 sec
F-Number: f/4.0
Exposure Program: Manual
ISO Speed Rating: 400
Lens Aperture: f/4.0
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash: No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length: 260.00 mm
Color Space Information: sRGB
Image Width: 1536
Image Height: 1024
Rendering: Normal
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Scene Capture Type: Standard

Other Properties:

Resolution Unit: i
Exif IFD Pointer: 175
Exif Version: 2.21
Image Generated: 2008:11:15 15:06:45
Image Digitized: 2008:11:15 15:06:45
Shutter Speed: 1/332 sec
Focal Plane Horiz Resolution: 3098 dpi
Focal Plane Vert Resolution: 3098 dpi
Focal Plane Res Unit: i


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Nov 20, 2008 17:39 |  #2

Do you have one from the same set that isn't over exposed? What's the EXIF from that one?


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Nov 20, 2008 17:56 |  #3

You just over-exposed it, it looks like it was a pretty bright, sunny day and you had it at 1/320 ss, iso 400 and F4.

Next time try somthing more like 1/800 ss, iso 400 and F4, even then it will be a bit bright. ;)


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Nov 20, 2008 18:15 |  #4

YEP! Too much light for those settings...especially in the sun.Do what ^^^^ said!
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Nov 20, 2008 20:14 |  #5

Why are you shooting manual if you don't how how to expose properly?


Anyone know anything anywhere anymore?

  
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Nov 20, 2008 20:48 |  #6

were you borrowing someones Mark2N....you list a 20D as your gear?...Simple over-exposure.
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Nov 21, 2008 00:02 |  #7

watchtherocks wrote in post #6728777 (external link)
Why are you shooting manual if you don't how how to expose properly?

Because on a 1D Mark IIN, manual is the only option. There is no TV, AV, P, ect...


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Nov 21, 2008 00:13 |  #8

Canon_For_Life wrote in post #6729973 (external link)
Because on a 1D Mark IIN, manual is the only option. There is no TV, AV, P, ect...

That's not true at all..

All 1D series bodies have M, Tv, Av, P


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Nov 21, 2008 00:18 |  #9

Oops:o

Do you have to change modes in the menu? I wish I would have known that when I used a friends 1DIII :lol:


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Nov 21, 2008 00:22 |  #10

haha, no worries. I had to ask how to change the metering mode the first time I used a 1-series too. It's a lot different than any of the xxD/xxxD's

To change everything from af, iso, drive, shooting modes, ect, you press and hold the indicated button(s) on the top left of the body while scrolling the top wheel.


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Nov 21, 2008 00:31 |  #11

Haha, ya when I first started using it I was SO lost, I couldnt even figure out how to turn on the screen!! :lol:
And the guy wasnt there to show me, so I basically had to guess on some things without messing it up haha. I never noticed the button to change modes though :lol:


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Nov 21, 2008 12:16 as a reply to  @ Canon_For_Life's post |  #12

Below is a shot with info of my son playing soccer on a sunny day. Lower ISO, shot wide open and higher shutter speed are the main differences between the 2 shots.

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File Size: 472 kb - 800 x 641
Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 5D
Date/Time: 2008:09:20 10:06:50
Resolution: 800 x 641
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 200.0mm (35mm equivalent: 263...
CCD Width: 27.39mm
Exposure Time: 0.0001 s (1/8000)
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO Equiv.: 250
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
Exposure Mode: Auto bracketing

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Nov 21, 2008 14:23 |  #13

watchtherocks wrote in post #6728777 (external link)
Why are you shooting manual if you don't how how to expose properly?

One reason would be to learn how to expose properly. But when you get a bad shot, like this one, you would change settings and reshoot and find correct settings. But knowing some basics of what each setting does and how exposure is changed when they are modified is needed.




  
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Nov 21, 2008 14:53 |  #14

Well, remember the golden sunny16 rule rule of thumb...

Bright sun, start with f16 and your shutter speed approximately 1/ISO
For example... 100 iso, 1/100 to 1/125 shutter.

By that rule, with 400 ISO, you should've been at ~ 1/400 shutter, give or take.
You were fairly close at 320. But you were at F4, not F16 - 4 stops overexposed.

400 / 1/320 / F4 would be about right with a dark gray sky - as in just about to thunderstorm.


I pointed my camera at infinity...and it backfocused.

  
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Nov 21, 2008 15:52 as a reply to  @ tkfoto's post |  #15

Thank you for all the input. It's great. I did upgrade to the 1D and am learning on the fly. The one challenge I find is with no fully auto mode, with AP or TV you still need to choose ISO. That is where I find i run into problems. Same thing this summer with Maui sunsets.

The attached was taken the same day with good success.


Camera-Specific Properties:

Equipment Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N


Image-Specific Properties:

Image Orientation: Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution: 72 dpi
Vertical Resolution: 72 dpi
Image Created: 2008:11:21 13:30:22
Exposure Time: 1/400 sec
F-Number: f/2.8
Exposure Program: Manual
ISO Speed Rating: 200
Lens Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash: No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length: 120.00 mm
Color Space Information: sRGB
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Image Height: 1024
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