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Dec 05, 2008 15:29 |  #16

roman_t wrote in post #6819813 (external link)
lightmeter is a must. one thing about muslin i hate is wrinkles. coloring black muslin with gel is tricky but it worths trying.
you have nice meter. it should work wired and wireless. and you can ask someone to hold meter and trigger lights yourself. i have old minolta meter and its very easy tool.

set iso 100 (camera and meter)
set sh/s at both lets say 1/125s
set both f/8
set front light and fire it somehow and read your meter (locate it carefully as in meters' manual. accordingly adjust power of front light. it'd show in gn or f/stops.
the same for back light and so on.
its fun

I just can't light the BG up with one 580EX II as my two main lights are used for key light and hair light. The wrinkles is frustrating too. I am thinking of buying a steamer. But If I can't light up the BG with color, there is no point to reveal the wrinkles or no wrinkle, right?


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Dec 05, 2008 15:34 |  #17

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I have a lightmeter, but I don't have to PW trigger on it. I couldn't timely press the meter and PW trigger at same time on both hands.... Any trick for me to do that?

What? Sure you not doing something different? It is just pressing button on your L358 to sart taking the measurement and then press another button on PW. How hard that can be? You have to have L358 on non corded mode. Once you press the button on 358, it waits a while for the flash trigger so gives you ample time to hit the trigger button on your PW.


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Dec 05, 2008 15:40 |  #18

Galaxy99 wrote in post #6820474 (external link)
Thanks for the link, Randy. No, I never read the manual since I don't I have one as I bought it used... :)

You're welcome! :)


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Dec 05, 2008 18:06 |  #19

I just wanted to thank you for the link.


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Dec 05, 2008 19:09 |  #20

Galaxy99 wrote in post #6820547 (external link)
I just can't light the BG up with one 580EX II as my two main lights are used for key light and hair light. The wrinkles is frustrating too. I am thinking of buying a steamer. But If I can't light up the BG with color, there is no point to reveal the wrinkles or no wrinkle, right?

Seamless paper is soooooo much easier.


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Dec 05, 2008 23:24 |  #21

go for paper. i'm going too




  
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Dec 06, 2008 10:33 |  #22

roman_t wrote in post #6822773 (external link)
go for paper. i'm going too

I don't have a truck to transport the 9 feet long paper to sites...:confused:


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Dec 06, 2008 10:41 as a reply to  @ Galaxy99's post |  #23

Seamless is such a great solution but I do agree that if the lighting setup is going to be portable it's just not practical for most people to be able to or want to transport a roll of 104" seamless paper.

Unfortunately the most practical solution with be either collapsible backgrounds or muslin, and if wrinkles are an issue then an investment in a portable steamer makes a lot of sense.


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Dec 06, 2008 13:12 |  #24

sorry, i thought of muslin for studio. bh has portable backdrops for one full person shots




  
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Dec 08, 2008 08:53 |  #25

Wrinkles depend on quality of muslin also. I have nice heavy hand painted 10x20 backdrops from silverlake and they don't wrinkle much. I never fold them in a ball like folks say. I just roll like loosely rolling a carpet. If it doesn't fit in my car, then I just fold it in half. The muslin I see in stores is very very thin material in comparison.


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Dec 08, 2008 08:55 |  #26

Another thought, why can't you use some white fleece kind of material? IT is light, doesn't wrinkle and can be easily turned white. I just bought a white cotton blanket from wallmart for $14 to shoot pictures of my son. Couldn't find fleece in white that day.


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Dec 08, 2008 11:48 |  #27
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Galaxy99 wrote in post #6819688 (external link)
I have a lightmeter, but I don't have to PW trigger on it. I couldn't timely press the meter and PW trigger at same time on both hands.... Any trick for me to do that?
reads. Am I correct?

Yes. take your L358 and RTFM




  
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