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Thread started 19 Dec 2008 (Friday) 11:15
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POLL: "Which combo would you pick?"
Nikon D700 + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR
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Canon 5DMkII + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 IS
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Dec 19, 2008 11:15 |  #1

Ok, imagine you want to start to get in the business of photography and you will be shooting exclusively portraiture, glamour and fashion photos. 60% of shoots will be done in studio setting with strobes; 30% will be taken indoors (available light) and the rest 10% outdoors. The pics will range from head shots to small group shots (2 to 5 models at max).

You have all the lighting, support and accesories needed and you have US$5400 to spend in 1 camera and glass. Which of the following combos would you choose:

Nikon D700 + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR (US$5,430 at B&H)
Canon 5DMkII + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 IS (US$5,310 at B&H) *

(*The $120 difference can go to buy extended warranty, since the Nikon system offers 2 years in body and 5 years in glass, but Canon only offers 1 year for both body and glass).


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Dec 19, 2008 11:24 |  #2

Canon and if you are planning on primarily shooting in studio portraits I would suggest a prime lens. Maybe the 85mm 1.2 L
The 24-70 although a flexible lens it may be a bit wide for portraits on a full frame body, when shooting in studio I would suggest using a prime.
With the money you have I would go with Canon gear.
Due to the 5D's 10.2mp sensor, I would suggest you either wait till canon releases their update or go with the 50D 12.2mp. Your right at a mid point where the 1D's are very expensive and the 5D will be obsolete in a short time. So you either buy a crop body or shell out the doe to get the 1D


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Dec 19, 2008 11:26 |  #3

Another thread? Really? Didn't you already pre-order the 5D2?

>>Nikon D700 + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR (US$5,430 at B&H)
>>Canon 5DMkII + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 IS (US$5,310 at B&H)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it would not matter. A good photographer will produce similar images with both. If you need very large prints or have high-res stock requirements, one is an obviously better choice.

This is like going to a Mac forum and asking which operating system would a person rather use... Vista or OS X?


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Dec 19, 2008 11:48 |  #4

Hoff cracks me up... ;)

He's right on all accounts.


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Dec 19, 2008 12:05 |  #5

BscPhoto wrote in post #6909024 (external link)
Canon and if you are planning on primarily shooting in studio portraits I would suggest a prime lens. Maybe the 85mm 1.2 L
The 24-70 although a flexible lens it may be a bit wide for portraits on a full frame body, when shooting in studio I would suggest using a prime.
With the money you have I would go with Canon gear.
Due to the 5D's 10.2mp sensor, I would suggest you either wait till canon releases their update or go with the 50D 12.2mp. Your right at a mid point where the 1D's are very expensive and the 5D will be obsolete in a short time. So you either buy a crop body or shell out the doe to get the 1D


maybe you missed the part where he said 5DmkII? And also... you put to much emphasis on megapixels...




  
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Dec 19, 2008 12:06 |  #6

TheHoff wrote in post #6909039 (external link)
Another thread? Really? Didn't you already pre-order the 5D2?

>>Nikon D700 + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR (US$5,430 at B&H)
>>Canon 5DMkII + 24-70 f/2.8 + 70-200 f/2.8 IS (US$5,310 at B&H)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it would not matter. A good photographer will produce similar images with both. If you need very large prints or have high-res stock requirements, one is an obviously better choice.

This is like going to a Mac forum and asking which operating system would a person rather use... Vista or OS X?

LOL... Sorry Hoff I guess I have too much time on my hands today (stayed home due to the snow storm outside). Yes I have pre-ordered the MkII and I do not have the $5400 to spend, this was a theoretical question :)

I have used the brick before on a 40D and to be honest I prefer the IQ from the 24-105 on a studio setting (I always shoot f8 to f16 so the faster 24-70 is not a seller for me, plus the IS on the 24-105 has saved my butt several times).

As for using primes for portrait shoots, I heard this many times, but lets just say in my personal experience the 24-105 and 70-200 have given me better results than the 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8 and 100 f2 Macro; plus the felxibility of a zoom is a big bonus. I heard however than on Full Frame bodies the story is different and the primes excel and beat the zooms so who knows now that I take the step to FF, I might purchase back my primes I sold.

Basically I started this thread as a poll which I didn't in the previous one. Body wise the D700 might be better for AF but the 5D MkII has native ISO 100 which is the only setting I use in studio (and I wished ISO 50 was native as I found my strobes to powerful sometimes for my type of shoot). That lack of ISO 100 native on the Nikon is almost a deal breaker for me (of course I can use filters to reduce the amount on light getting to the camera).

Concerning glass, from what I read the Nikon 24-70 is a bit better than the Brick but the Canon 70-200 is better than the Nikon counterpart. Since on a full frame body I am expecting shooting 80% above 70mm then the Canon makes more sense to me, the rest 20% maybe at 50mm for full body shots. Anyways don't bash me for this thread :( I was just curious as to what other people think... Take it easy on me Hoff ...hehehehe


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Dec 19, 2008 14:46 |  #7

Not trying to bash you or anything, but hoff is right. It won't matter. How many times to you open a magazine or walk down the street, see an ad with a model in it and say "that was obviously shot by a nikon." Or "See he was using a canon 70-200 2.8 IS." You seem to be knee deep in canon gear so I would just go with canon.


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Dec 19, 2008 21:48 |  #8

I would choose the D700! :-)


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Dec 20, 2008 00:05 as a reply to  @ smakelijk11's post |  #9

I have to print poster size and banners on occasion. I also used to do photography for very large packages. So to me megapixels are a huge deal


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