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Dec 29, 2008 11:03 |  #3436

JBaz wrote in post #6961679 (external link)
All of those shots are underexposed and the lighting really isn't flattering. Sorry for being so blunt. Don't do direct flash, bounce it or diffuse it. Go back like 10 pages on this thread, a lot of people have some tips and advice.

For the most part, I agree. Not ALL are underexposed, but a great many most certainly are. Just check the histograms. If the poster allowed editing, I'd be able to illustrate just how much better the images would look if exposed properly. Great shots, but poor exposure control. Of course that is only my opinion as well.


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Dec 29, 2008 11:06 |  #3437

whitedog wrote in post #6963199 (external link)
For the most part, I agree. Not ALL are underexposed, but a great many most certainly are. Just check the histograms. If the poster allowed editing, I'd be able to illustrate just how much better the images would look if exposed properly. Great shots, but poor exposure control. Of course that is only my opinion as well.

Start editting.


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Dec 29, 2008 11:09 |  #3438

For example, and these are still a bit underexposed, but you get the idea:

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http://www.bobrock.com​/POTN/edit002.jpg (external link)


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Dec 29, 2008 11:19 |  #3439

whitedog wrote in post #6963230 (external link)
For example, and these are still a bit underexposed, but you get the idea:

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I like.


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Dec 29, 2008 15:02 |  #3440

PeeteProductions wrote in post #6962970 (external link)
Underexposed?? It must be your computer. It looks great on every other computer I look at this thread on.

Are these computers' screens calibrated?

I agree the most of these are undexposed. The edits look a lot better.

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Dec 29, 2008 20:33 |  #3441

Without calibration, you don't have a clear idea what you are producing. Most uncalibrated monitors are set too bright.


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Dec 30, 2008 00:00 |  #3442

Monitor now recalibrated. I see what yal are talkin' about.


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Dec 30, 2008 00:11 |  #3443

PeeteProductions wrote in post #6967628 (external link)
Monitor now recalibrated. I see what yal are talkin' about.

Kudos! It makes a difference, doesn't it!?

Most monitors are set brightly for "normal" viewing, not photo editing. This causes a lot of consternation if you edit a shot then print it and wonder why they come out darker than they look on-screen.


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Dec 30, 2008 00:26 |  #3444

tonylong wrote in post #6967679 (external link)
Kudos! It makes a difference, doesn't it!?

Most monitors are set brightly for "normal" viewing, not photo editing. This causes a lot of consternation if you edit a shot then print it and wonder why they come out darker than they look on-screen.

I see.

I have a Canon Pro9000 Photo Printer and the photos actually haven't came out darker. They turned out just how they were on the screen. But the monitor now being calibrated makes pictures on this site look 10x better.


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Dec 30, 2008 00:47 |  #3445

PeeteProductions wrote in post #6967757 (external link)
I see.

I have a Canon Pro9000 Photo Printer and the photos actually haven't came out darker. They turned out just how they were on the screen. But the monitor now being calibrated makes pictures on this site look 10x better.

Cool!

As far as the printer goes, it may be that the color profile (or printer settings) you are using is set to boost the brightness of the print.


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Dec 30, 2008 04:29 |  #3446

yeah, if you let the printer driver or color profile manage the printing, then they tend to alter the picture to give "the best result". I haven't learned true printing yet, that's summer semester.


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Dec 30, 2008 11:50 as a reply to  @ JBaz's post |  #3447

Anyone have any good references for calibrating a monitor on a Dell Inspiron laptop? I have noticed some differences in brightness between my laptop, my work monitor and my 42inch LG that I have my PC hooked up to. I do the processing on my laptop, so I want to make sure that my monitor is showing as true as possible.

Thanks for bringing this up in discussion. It's something that many of us never thought of as an issue!

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Dec 30, 2008 12:14 |  #3448

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Anyone have any good references for calibrating a monitor on a Dell Inspiron laptop?

Not sure what you mean by "references". But you need a colorimeter and the accompanying software in order to properly calibrate your display. I will first tell you that you should not expect perfection with a laptop screen. They aren't even in the same ballpark as a dedicated display, but that said, you WILL get far better accuracy with a calibrated screen, regardless of the type.

I do a good deal of color management work and have tried many, if not all, of the available calibration packages. Personally I prefer the iOne Display package from Xrite:
http://www.xrite.com/p​roduct_overview.aspx?I​D=788 (external link)
...but they also make a less expensive ColorMunki: http://www.xrite.com/p​roduct_overview.aspx?I​D=1114 (external link)
The new Spyder3 has also been greatly improved over previous versions:
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But I would stay away from the Pantone Huey. It's not very accurate or reliable.
These are the most popular "affordable" and "user friendly" products. There are many more available but they are for more professional applications or more frequent use. You can't go wrong with any of the above. The software will walk you through the process and do all the work for you.

Good luck.

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Dec 30, 2008 13:43 |  #3449

I like my Spyder3 elite colorimeter, but the software that comes with it just seems cheesy, but it's really simple to setup. I use it on my dell laptop but laptop monitors tend to be not very good to photo process due to low brightness, contrast and lack of true 8-bit color support. Color may look very similar to my desktop monitor, but it doesn't show gradations very well, plus light greys don't show well and blacks aren't very rich on the laptop.


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Dec 30, 2008 16:54 |  #3450

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