My first wedding.

Karizmatik wrote in post #6959658
Not sure what people see in # 6 - The sky is blown and it looks under-exposed to me and what are they looking out into? A tree?

They are looking out into the pro photographer who was taking their picture. Technically the picture isn't perfect, however I think the sky being blown out is somewhat saved by the tree imo. Had it been just an empty space it would look stupid.

Karizmatik wrote in post #6959658
The rest have harsh flash with weird hot-spots like you haven't quite yet learnt how to bounce or were just using the pop-up flash I'm afraid.

I didn't use a flash at all, those weird hot spots was the sun shining through the window. Not a lot I could do about that I'm afraid.

Karizmatik wrote in post #6959658
Although I do like the one with the little girl - She looks OOF. I can't even tell if that's a Nikon camera or a Canon camera she is holding.

Keep at it though!

It's a Nikon, not sure it matters though. Yes, the picture is rather soft.

Karizmatik wrote in post #6960002
The shots that have weird hot spots can be solved with simply not using pop-up flash or any flash at all. The OOF girl can simply be fixed by knowing how to focus properly.

I didn't realize the 400D came without these features. My apologies again.

Once again, no shots were used with a flash. All the hot spots during the ceremony pictures were caused by the sun. I do know how to focus, however when shooting in low light you have to put up with slow shutter speeds. IMO you need a steady hand, even at 1/40 to ensure full sharpness, I guess my hands aren't so steady after 5 glasses of wine.

Thanks to all for the comments, good and bad.

For a minimal setup and your first time, you did well. Although I don't really like any of the pictures for other reason than technical. But I can tell that with just some more practice, you will pass the so called "pro" in the first shot. Straight on flash with stofen is a big no in my book. People have this misleading idea of sticking a piece of plastic to soften light somehow make their pictures appear better, by magic I guess

The hardest part of shooting a prime without flash is getting the correct angle for a nicely lit scene. Sometime you can't avoid blown areas, make use of it, incorporate it in your overall picture to enhance focus to the subjects instead of taking it away. A lot of these come with practice.

I thought when I first read this thread that you were the Photographer at this wedding

"My First Wedding"

Youve a awful lot to learn about cameras and the technical aspects of photography...

Weddings are without doubt the one place that if you have any technical inadiquacys they will surely show at their worst. Its the place that Light postion is always changing
people are on the move and you have to nail the most critical shots Bam Bam Bam one after another. You need to be technically atuned to the gear you are using. Dont listen to all the Hype, you can shoot a wedding using the gear you have, you dont need
a 1D MkIII and an array of L Glass (It Helps) but isnt necessary, You did the right thing by practicing using the equipment you have but i can see perhaps that you require a grounding in the Fundementals of Photography Depth of Field, Composition, Use of Exposure and more advanced use of Flash (Just because its over exposed dosnt mean that you did it by accident) .

Take some time to learn and practice the fundementals and youll reap the benefits

I dont want to discourage you. Keep it going theres light at the end of every tunnel..

With regard Low light and exposure, focus....

Heres an example from yesterdays wedding shot on a 20D 70-200 2.8 at ISO 800 1/40 (I think) No Flash...

Oh and just because your a DUB heres a special one if your into Football ? it might be a long time before you guys see this again.....

Regards
Paul

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Paul Gerrard wrote in post #6969348
I thought when I first read this thread that you were the Photographer at this wedding

"My First Wedding"

Youve a awful lot to learn about cameras and the technical aspects of photography...

Indeed I do, only had the camera a couple of months so I'm still very much a beginner.

Paul Gerrard wrote in post #6969348
You did the right thing by practicing using the equipment you have but i can see perhaps that you require a grounding in the Fundementals of Photography Depth of Field, Composition, Use of Exposure and more advanced use of Flash (Just because its over exposed dosnt mean that you did it by accident) .

Take some time to learn and practice the fundementals and youll reap the benefits

Can I ask for a couple of pointers? Looking at the shots posted, what would you have done different regarding DOF/Comp/Exposure etc? I didn't use a flash.

Paul Gerrard wrote in post #6969348
With regard Low light and exposure, focus....

Heres an example from yesterdays wedding shot on a 20D 70-200 2.8 at ISO 800 1/40 (I think) No Flash...

Oh and just because your a DUB heres a special one if your into Football ? it might be a long time before you guys see this again.....

Regards
Paul

'fraid i'm not a football fan

Regarding the picture you posted, I assume you posted this in response to my comments regarding shooting with slower shutter speeds in low light and loosing focus as a result? Well, it's a nice shot, nice lighting, but I have to be honest, it looks a little OOF to me.

Thanks for the feedback.

Last one is great!

I also like the lighting on #4 a lot, not so sure about his eyes being closed though.

1) is a Write OFF ( Blown Highlights totally distract the eye and OOF)
ISO 100 Indoors if you wee using "M" should have been ISO 400 1/260 f5.6 ish
Shutter Speeds Sub 1/60 very difficult to hand hold and f1.8 will give a very Narrow DOF unless you want it then best avoided at this stage...

2) I like this shot but you still have some Blown parts in the forground that distract the eye the DOF works well here again Shutter speeds and ISO not great for indoor work Detail missing What are they looking at???? this would also go

3) A tighter crop Get rid of the woman waiting for her money on the left and the man in the background 1/30 ISO100 Youve made the best of it here and have got some clarity on the subjects but youve made it hard work for yourself with those shutter speeds Blown Highlights again. Even after you do this the hook of the image is still missing you cant see her signing.... This would go too

4) I Like this one. except for his eyes closed. now at 1/200 ISO still 100 should be 1/100 200ISO ish exposure is critical with Digital cameras as high quality high iso images can look great and with a bad exposure you can achive very noisy images at low ISO. I Like the composition and good use of DOF, Its also goes

5) I think you could crop much tighter here and your 1/40 has ruined the effect as its too soft to be usable because of hand shake, again the f1.8 giving you a very narrow DOF too narrow for this image. Its gone!!

6) Setting here f8/f11 ISO200 1/500 this was later in the afternoon as the shadows are long Compositionally its quite nice it could do with a tighter crop and better / Crisper BW conversion and perhaps more contrast...

Keep this one and work on it

The out of focus parts of my image of the bridesmaid ie in front of her and behind her leaving her face in focus is correct use of DOF..

Hope that helps

Paul

Paul Gerrard wrote in post #6969348
...

Heres an example from yesterdays wedding shot on a 20D 70-200 2.8 at ISO 800 1/40 (I think) No Flash...

...
Regards
Paul

Your first shot either had movement blur or slightly out of focus due to extremely low shutter speed for such a long lens on a cropped body. IS only helps around 2, max 2 1/2 stops. 1/40 is too low of a shutter speed unless the subject stay absolutely still, or you pop 2 or 3 shots in a row for a lucky sharp one, or better yet, use flash to freeze it.

Your second shot needs a white balance adjustment, and a slight boost in exposure. There's no defined shadows in the men's pants, unless they wore a blob of black for pants, that light fell off from either your flash or ambient wasn't enough to give it proper exposure.

The last one is a keeper.

Karizmatik wrote in post #6959658
Not sure what people see in # 6 - The sky is blown and it looks under-exposed to me and what are they looking out into? A tree?

The rest have harsh flash with weird hot-spots like you haven't quite yet learnt how to bounce or were just using the pop-up flash I'm afraid.

Although I do like the one with the little girl - She looks OOF. I can't even tell if that's a Nikon camera or a Canon camera she is holding.

Keep at it though!

MagicMarker, great shots. Great first effort I would be happy with these shots and I'm sure you have many more from the day. Well done.

Karizmatik, if you cant tell that is a Nikon then you should get your eye's checked, but I have seen all of your shot's and it would explain a hell of alot.

To all, please excuse Karizmatik, Australia is quite embarrassed by him. He's just young and stupid, if you want a real good hard laugh though check out his site, he's done 3 friend weddings and he's a "Pro wedding fotog", check out these little beauties https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=6956509#p​ost6956509 or better still http://www.kariz-matik.com/html/other.h​tml checkcheck out #'s 6 & 20 lmfao! I mean you can just tell they were taken by a "Pro" can't you. lmao, hardly fit to be dishing out any form of critique what so ever IMO. What a joke, talk about OOF. ROFLMAO

Having said all that you've just got to cop that with these pro types, just highly strung touchy things.

^ I guess following me around on Photo boards and flapping your gums (Or fingers, rather) and criticizing my work is better than actually taking photo's yourself and posting them. Hope that works out for you, though.

But like all the other times I've told you.. Give it up, it's just pathetic.

Oh and PS, keep the "I'm going to come to the Gold Coast and kick your ass 'cause I take Karate classes" to yourself this time. My sides still hurt from laughing so much.

Paul Gerrard wrote in post #6971076
1) is a Write OFF ( Blown Highlights totally distract the eye and OOF)
ISO 100 Indoors if you wee using "M" should have been ISO 400 1/260 f5.6 ish
Shutter Speeds Sub 1/60 very difficult to hand hold and f1.8 will give a very Narrow DOF unless you want it then best avoided at this stage...

2) I like this shot but you still have some Blown parts in the forground that distract the eye the DOF works well here again Shutter speeds and ISO not great for indoor work Detail missing What are they looking at???? this would also go

3) A tighter crop Get rid of the woman waiting for her money on the left and the man in the background 1/30 ISO100 Youve made the best of it here and have got some clarity on the subjects but youve made it hard work for yourself with those shutter speeds Blown Highlights again. Even after you do this the hook of the image is still missing you cant see her signing.... This would go too

4) I Like this one. except for his eyes closed. now at 1/200 ISO still 100 should be 1/100 200ISO ish exposure is critical with Digital cameras as high quality high iso images can look great and with a bad exposure you can achive very noisy images at low ISO. I Like the composition and good use of DOF, Its also goes

5) I think you could crop much tighter here and your 1/40 has ruined the effect as its too soft to be usable because of hand shake, again the f1.8 giving you a very narrow DOF too narrow for this image. Its gone!!

6) Setting here f8/f11 ISO200 1/500 this was later in the afternoon as the shadows are long Compositionally its quite nice it could do with a tighter crop and better / Crisper BW conversion and perhaps more contrast...

Keep this one and work on it

The out of focus parts of my image of the bridesmaid ie in front of her and behind her leaving her face in focus is correct use of DOF..

Hope that helps

Paul

Many thanks for your input Paul, I'll keep it all in mind in the future.

A bit of over exposure in some but there are some really nice ones here especially the last but one

I'm a little suprised that no one told the girl in black to fix her strap and bodice before the "click."

The last photo is very nice.

Good job for a first wedding. I wouldn't worry about the sky being so blown out in the last one. It works anyway.

jarsena wrote in post #6957544
Mark me down for the last one too! very nice

If the bandwagon isn't full yet, I'll jump on. The framing with the columns is sweet.