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Nov 06, 2008 19:04 as a reply to  @ post 6637228 |  #496

The Arabian Gulf, Sharjah, United Arab Emirates. HDR

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Nov 06, 2008 21:14 |  #497

Is there anyway to see that shot without it being HDR Tareq? Sori if I'm being knit picky but, GNDs are used to help balance the exposure. Using it in an HDR would defeat the purpose imo. Don't ya think?




  
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Nov 06, 2008 21:32 |  #498

jdizzle wrote in post #6638771 (external link)
Is there anyway too see that shot without it being HDR Tareq? Sori if I'm being knit picky but, GNDs are used to help balance the exposure. Using it in an HDR would defeat the purpose imo. Don't ya think?

If i didn't use GNDs then i can't get good HDR, i will never use HDR on bad shots in exposures, so i get it right first then play with HDR ;):p


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Nov 07, 2008 16:26 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #499

Hitech 3-stop hard GND with a B+W CPL tossed into the mix:

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Hitech 3-stop soft GND, again with a B+W CPL:

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Nov 10, 2008 21:53 |  #501

I love my ND filter. I don't leave home without it. It is a Cokin P series style Hi Tech no 9 ND Grad. i don't use the holder, I just hold it in front of and against the lens. Also I use my CPL with it.

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Nov 12, 2008 17:22 |  #502

nwa2 wrote in post #4999096 (external link)
This is a great thread. I have a couple of Cokin-P's that I keep in my gadget bag and use quite regularly.

I have never found consistent advice on how to meter for a ND grad. I have generally been using my evaluative meter mode and sometimes adding EV compensation. (I can never figure out if this just defeats the purpose of the filter - dughhh).

I have had a look at the EXIF data on the images in this thread, out of about 15 pictures where the EXIF data was available, 14 used evaluative metering and 1 used partial metering. Only three had any EV compensation applied (less than a stop).

Yooper60 wrote in post #4999302 (external link)
If someone out there is really bored and has some time, could he or she take a picture of a Cokin GND filter?

Just a thought about metering, remember I'm a digital rookie here, wouldn't it work if you metered the sky and landscape seperately without the filter then choose which GND depending on the difference?

Yooper has the right idea. Spot meter the two regions of the shot you plan on splitting the filter over, then whatever the difference is (in stops), you then choose the appropriate filter (I always average up, so 2.x stops=3 stops for me). From experience, any shot with the sun in the frame, you need at least a 3 stop GND.

I think that if you're going to invest in GNDs, you should get at least a soft 2 & 3 stop color neutral, and if you live near an ocean, get a hard 2 & 3 stop color neutral. Why get at least two filters? You can always stack the filters to get a 5 stop difference when necessary (like if the bright sun is in the shot). They are highly worth the investment, the most versatile filters for landscape photography (coming in close second, CPL, and third, NDs).

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Nov 18, 2008 10:23 as a reply to  @ jrader's post |  #503

hey all,

Anyone know what the deal is with the stock situation for Lee 4" X 6" GNDs? I am looking for .6 and .9 GNDs both hard and soft. But BH and other vendors show Out of Stock and I was wondering how long these have been out of stock. I am going to Costa Rica on December 20 and narrowed my choice to Lee and I will wait if there is any shot to acquire these filters any time soon. Second choice is HiTech and the Z-Pro but I like the Lee system from what I have read. thx.

Seems these are always out of stock. Tried to pull the trigger on this months ago and ran into same situation.


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Nov 18, 2008 11:26 |  #504

argyle wrote in post #6643927 (external link)
Hitech 3-stop hard GND with a B+W CPL tossed into the mix:

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Hitech 3-stop soft GND, again with a B+W CPL:

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WOW, both of these are exactly why I am going to pursue a career in photography. Simply amazing, thank you for sharing


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Nov 18, 2008 12:11 |  #505

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hey all,

Anyone know what the deal is with the stock situation for Lee 4" X 6" GNDs? I am looking for .6 and .9 GNDs both hard and soft. But BH and other vendors show Out of Stock and I was wondering how long these have been out of stock. I am going to Costa Rica on December 20 and narrowed my choice to Lee and I will wait if there is any shot to acquire these filters any time soon. Second choice is HiTech and the Z-Pro but I like the Lee system from what I have read. thx.

Seems these are always out of stock. Tried to pull the trigger on this months ago and ran into same situation.

Nevermind. Found what I wanted at Calumet Photo.


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Nov 18, 2008 18:26 |  #506

I'm mad, I looked through this thread and decided I was going to get a GND filter, so I go to the local camera shop and the guy talked me out of it.
He said "for digital photography, all that is built in the camera and in the software, blah blah blah..."
Whats a decent, inexpensive place to get one of these filters?


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I'm mad, I looked through this thread and decided I was going to get a GND filter, so I go to the local camera shop and the guy talked me out of it.
He said "for digital photography, all that is built in the camera and in the software, blah blah blah..."
Whats a decent, inexpensive place to get one of these filters?

Good kit, great price and seller.

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Nov 18, 2008 19:31 |  #508

woodsj6 wrote in post #6713747 (external link)
I'm mad, I looked through this thread and decided I was going to get a GND filter, so I go to the local camera shop and the guy talked me out of it.
He said "for digital photography, all that is built in the camera and in the software, blah blah blah..."
Whats a decent, inexpensive place to get one of these filters?

The person you talked to is a moron. Sure, you can take 2 exposures and blend them together in Photoshop or the like. But, I find it much easier to use my GND filters. I also think they provide a certain "balance" that blending doesn't...i.e. they look more natural.

I buy Cokin P holders from Ebay, $5-8 shipped. Don't buy these retail...they are ridiculously overpriced. I buy HiTech filters from 2filter.com. You should start with a 2 stop soft edge, it's probably the "best" all around GND. I use one in combination with a circular polarizer probably 90% of the time.

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Dec 26, 2008 23:26 as a reply to  @ homersapien's post |  #509

This thread stiffens me willy. I was ready to go with a B&W Gradual ND, but now I think I'll try the Cokin/Hitech route.

Cool thread!




  
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Jan 08, 2009 12:08 as a reply to  @ Samgoit's post |  #510

Hi, and thanks for this very useful topic!

Just to double check, these three parts would add up to a working GND filter setup?

Cokin P299 Wide Angle Filter Holder
77mm "Fastening thingy" :lol:
Cokin P121 3-Stop Hard GND Filter

This would be for use with the EOS 400D with the Sigma 10-20mm.

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