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Dec 17, 2008 07:48 |  #151

Well folks, looks like I might have some time to re-assess my kit.

My daughter dislocated her knee again and managed to tear her MCL in the process. They drained it last night and pulled out 55 cc of bloody goo. They fitted her for a brace and sent us on our way.

They told her if it happened again she would need to "modify her activities"...her response? "Look doc, I am competing for 2 1/2 years and I'll be done...you can replace both my knees then".

Looks like she is out at least a month....which is unfortunate because she was working to move to level 9 next year....

I may go with her to some of the better lit events and get some shots...till then hoping Nikon releases some AF-S primes soon!


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Dec 17, 2008 08:22 |  #152

GBRandy wrote in post #6895007 (external link)
Well folks, looks like I might have some time to re-assess my kit.

My daughter dislocated her knee again and managed to tear her MCL in the process. They drained it last night and pulled out 55 cc of bloody goo. They fitted her for a brace and sent us on our way.

They told her if it happened again she would need to "modify her activities"...her response? "Look doc, I am competing for 2 1/2 years and I'll be done...you can replace both my knees then".

Looks like she is out at least a month....which is unfortunate because she was working to move to level 9 next year....

I may go with her to some of the better lit events and get some shots...till then hoping Nikon releases some AF-S primes soon!

Randy! So sorry to hear about this. I'm surprised they aren't going to repair the MCL. I guess since it's torn and not ruptured, they'll let nature take it's course.

Good luck with the recovery! I'll keep your daughter in my thoughts.


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Dec 17, 2008 08:23 |  #153

Geez Randy, that's awful news. So sorry to hear that.
I do understand your daughter's mindset tho.
My daughter's close friend (featured in photos posted above) broke her arm rather severely in 2007 doing a double back handspring in competition.
Same meet as in the above photos, just 2 years earlier. She hopped right back on the horse the next season and was dominant once again--first at the 2008 States for FX no less.

I wish your daughter the best.




  
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Dec 17, 2008 09:17 |  #154

Sorry to hear about that Randy! Best wishes to your daughter for a speedy recovery :)


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Dec 17, 2008 10:56 as a reply to  @ GBRandy's post |  #155

I'm very sorry to hear the news about your daughter Randy - I hope she has a quick recovery. It's hard to keep these gymnasts down - sounds like she is a tough cookie. :)

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Dec 17, 2008 16:27 |  #156

I'll pass your thoughts on to my daughter. She is a tough cookie....but all these girls are.

One of her freinds ruptured her PCL last May...it came completely off the bone and wrapped up in her leg. They just left it in there and gave her a brace and therapy.

She went and got a hinged brace and competed last week!!!???

We have had three compound leg fractures and one really nasty compound arm break off bars....every girl has come back in less than 12 months.

Personally? I truly believe these girls are way tougher than any football player. My daughter watched some lineman get carted off the field one Sunday with a knee dislocation...she looked at the TV screen then at me and all 4' 10" and 90 pounds of her called him a "whimp" for not walking off......

I laughed my butt off.


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Dec 17, 2008 19:35 |  #157

GBRandy wrote in post #6897963 (external link)
I'll pass your thoughts on to my daughter. She is a tough cookie....but all these girls are.

One of her freinds ruptured her PCL last May...it came completely off the bone and wrapped up in her leg. They just left it in there and gave her a brace and therapy.

She went and got a hinged brace and competed last week!!!???

We have had three compound leg fractures and one really nasty compound arm break off bars....every girl has come back in less than 12 months.

Personally? I truly believe these girls are way tougher than any football player. My daughter watched some lineman get carted off the field one Sunday with a knee dislocation...she looked at the TV screen then at me and all 4' 10" and 90 pounds of her called him a "whimp" for not walking off......

I laughed my butt off.

Here's hoping for a speedy recover for your daughter! We've been pretty lucky so far. They are preparing to move up to optionals next year, and the injuries are starting to surface. Luckily for us, my daughter does conditioning in the basement while getting her Hanna Montana fix in during her off days without ever being asked or prompted!

My daughter's favorite shirt says, "If gymnastics was easy, it would be called football."


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Dec 22, 2008 07:49 as a reply to  @ Mr B Pix's post |  #158

I've been a long time reader, and sometimes will posts questions/responses. But usually don't post pictures too often. Our home gym has good light, unless you try to take pictures faster than 1/125. The lights cycle really bad (color and intensity) resulting in some crazy results that are not worth trying to post process. We don't have great floor acess either, except on floor where the cycle lighting is the absolute worst. Because of the access (or lack there of), I find myself switching between the 85/1.8 and 70-200/2.8 just to have a little more reach. The 135/2 is at the top of the wish list, but will likely remain there for a little while.

I am still not happy with the noise in my pictures...probably time to pony up for NN or something. What is everyone's favorite? Lightroom is just not cutting it. Are the noise reduction tools in Lightroom 2 any better? Any other comments? I'd like to do some homework on sharpening too, but all I have at my disposal at this point is Lightroom.

Is it just me (I know it's not), but everytime I learn the routinues to help take better pictures, they change levels and are doing something new and I have to start all over?!?:rolleyes:

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Dec 22, 2008 14:16 |  #159

Mr B Pix wrote in post #6925739 (external link)
....I am still not happy with the noise in my pictures...probably time to pony up for NN or something. What is everyone's favorite? Lightroom is just not cutting it. Are the noise reduction tools in Lightroom 2 any better? Any other comments? I'd like to do some homework on sharpening too, but all I have at my disposal at this point is Lightroom....

I personally think that the noise reduction tools in LR are useless except for small area changes. LR2 didn't really make any changes in that direction either. I use Noiseware Pro for my images and it does a fantastic job.

I like your images, though they are a hair cold for me. I tend to take a little warmer picture in the gym, but that's just my preference. Thanks for sharing!


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Dec 23, 2008 07:33 |  #160

Mr B Pix wrote in post #6925739 (external link)
Is it just me (I know it's not), but everytime I learn the routinues to help take better pictures, they change levels and are doing something new and I have to start all over?!?:rolleyes:

Well, they are similar up to about 5/6, but then you get to a whole new meaning of "I have no idea what this person is going to do next."

Off to Mexico 12/31 for a L10 meet. Wish us luck.


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Jan 09, 2009 19:00 as a reply to  @ bwolford's post |  #161

Here are a couple from this weeks meet. My daughter sprained here ankle before the meet and was not able to do her floor routine :cry:

#1 Vaulting, manual pre-focus, shot at an angle

IMAGE: http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/photos/452005719_iehjs-L.jpg

#2 On the beam, leaps are a bit lower than usual
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#3 One more on the beam
IMAGE: http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/photos/452005726_Abj6n-L.jpg

I messed around with the post processing, let me know which image looks best to you all.

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Jan 09, 2009 19:07 |  #162

I like the third one the best. You did a great job of timing that shot.


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Jan 11, 2009 11:59 as a reply to  @ felixapproach's post |  #163

First meet of my daughter's second level 10 season. The meet was in a hotel ballroom in Cancun. It was a dungeon. Here's a sample BEFORE image with no PP. And this was at 1600. 1/320 (I could have gotten more light with a slower SS for THIS image, but I kept the SS high as this was pushing the limit for balancing SS and getting some action). All shot at F/2.

IMAGE: http://thewolfords.com/POTN/BAW_1013Before.jpg

I managed to salvage this from it:
1) Yes, it's still green, but I had color temp down to 2500 and any more manipulation really when bad. I think the only way to save this is B/W, but I don't do much B/W and need to learn a reliable conversion technique. Suggestions welcomed.

IMAGE: http://thewolfords.com/POTN/BAW_1013.jpg

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IMAGE: http://thewolfords.com/POTN/BAW_1095.jpg

3)
IMAGE: http://thewolfords.com/POTN/BAW_1179.jpg

4) I like the patriotic nature of this (even though it was shot in Cancun, MX :) .
IMAGE: http://thewolfords.com/POTN/BAW_1288.jpg

Enjoy and CC always welcome. Off to find some B/W conversion suggestions...

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Jan 11, 2009 13:17 |  #164

Jeez Brice, your daughter is getting so big! When we started this she was just a little girl! Make it stop!

The last image is strange looking. It looks like there is chalk dust in the air or some really weird looking noise?




  
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Jan 11, 2009 17:33 as a reply to  @ fugfuggy's post |  #165

Tell me about it. She 5'0" 100 lbs. Solid as a rock. Looks like she's not growing an inch more, which is good. She's matured a lot in the last 8 months. No longer a string bean. She's 16 this year and makes sure we know it.

The last is noise. I had to run it through neat image after processing the raw image and I can't get rid of it all. The original is just as dark as the first sample.


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