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EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or EF 28-135mm IS USM

 
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Jan 17, 2009 15:28 |  #1

I'm trying to decide between the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM or EF 28-135mm IS USM. They're both in the same price range and the both have IS,usm. I would be replacing my 18-55 kit lens with it. All I really need to know is which one has better image quality.

I guess the only thing would be if I ever upgrade to ff, which prob won't happen anytime soon.


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Jan 17, 2009 16:21 |  #2

Can you live without 18-27mm? (if you do any indoor stuff, I would think not). If you watch the Sell threads here, you'll probably get a good deal on the 28-135 since people buy camera kits, and then sell the lens because they already have better glass. They make a small profit, and you get a good deal. Everybody wins.

I went from the 18-55 to the 17-85. It was okay, but I wish I would have just went with the Tamron 17-50 F2.8 instead.


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Jan 17, 2009 16:31 |  #3

I do mostly outdoor,scenic shots, and night-time shots where I don't want to use a flash or I don't have a tripod because I'm traveling. Thats why I would need the IS.


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Jan 17, 2009 16:32 |  #4

I ended up with both when I bought my XSi.. to be honest, I used the 17-85 more often than the 28-135 - but that's just me..

I recently bought the Tamron 18-270 to become my all around walk-about lens and am considering selling both my 17-85 and 28-135 as a result. If you can spring a little more money, I would take a long took at the 18-270 (or the Canon 18-200 and Sigma 18-200.. and didn't Sigma just announce an 18-250 or something?)


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Jan 17, 2009 16:50 |  #5

To me, the faster F2.8 (throughout the entire focal range) of the Tamron was worth more to me than the IS. The 17-85 starts at F4, but goes to F5.6 as you zoom out to 85. My personal preference is to get the fastest lens you can for the situation, instead of relying on IS. And IS is only good if the subject is still. My kids are never "still", so the faster lens is needed. To go faster than F2.8, you'll need to go with a prime instead of a zoom.

Look at the Bob Atkins review (external link) of the 17-85, and look at the Aperture chart. By 50mm, the 17-85 is at F5.6 minimum. Although I give up the 51-85mm range on the Tamron, I prefer the constant F2.8 from 17-50mm on it.

Not saying you should do what I did, as I may not entirely understand your shooting style or preferences. I just wanted to expand on why FOR ME the Tamron is a better choice. Given that I think buying the 17-85 was a mistake FOR ME, I just don't want to see anyone else do the same. For me, it was a lack of knowledge at the time. My focus at the time was completely on focal length range of the lens. I wanted the extra 1mm wider than 18, and thought the extra reach from 56-85 would be nice. It is nice for the extra reach outdoors in daylight. But to me the 17-85 is a "good lighting only" lens.


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Jan 17, 2009 20:55 |  #6
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I owned both. They are quite different lenses even though the purpose of 17-85 is to mimic 28-135 on crop sensor cameras.

So assuming you have a crop camera ( otherwise why would you look at 17-85) I can give you pros and cons of both. They are not taken from any review but from my own experience.

17-85
pros.
Nicer colors and contrast than 28-135.
Better IS.
Generally more useful focus rance.
cons.
Barrel distortion, which I could leave with since I do not do any architecture photography and when photographing people this does not matter.
Strong CA on the wide end. This is very visible and annoying. I did not try to correct it so as I got rid of the lens by the time that option appeared in DPP.

28-135
Basically swap pros and cons of 17-85.

I personally decided to keep 28-135 and it still is my favorite even though I owned 17-55/2.8 for quite a time and now use 24-70/2.8L

The main limitation of both 17-85 and 28-135 is relatively narrow apperture that for me is often very limiting.




  
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Jan 17, 2009 23:25 |  #7

I've used both. I found image quality wasn't much different between the two. The IS is better on the 17-85, but I don't think it's enough of a difference to sway the decision. It comes down to what range is more important to you, 18-28 or 85-135. For me, I needed the long more than the wide, so I kept the 28-135.




  
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Jan 18, 2009 00:48 |  #8

Yeah I already have a 75-300 so I dont really need the long. I'm leaning towards the EF
28-135mm. If I ever upgrade to full frame I could still use it. and its 3.5 instead of 4


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Jan 18, 2009 02:39 |  #9

If you go for the 28-135mm then you may want to keep your 18-55 for those times when you want a wide angle. Set your 18-55 to 28 to see what that field of view looks like. 28mm is a normal lens on an XT.


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Jan 18, 2009 19:09 |  #10

This one looks like just what I need...EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS...but no full-time manual focus, no usm, flimsy plastic.


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