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Feb 04, 2009 05:14 |  #1

Hello Guys,

Just need some advise on Model Mayhem Website. I just recently joined the site and need advise on how to approach models in the London area UK?

My aim is to find female models who are willing to do a photo shoot for (TFCD) Time for CD photo shoot type as you know it means giving them a CD of the photo shoot for their time..

Is this a good approach? How does it work? I am a little nervous as I have never done a photo shoot with a stranger.. I am new to all this and want to get into doing this professionally one day.. please help and advise..

Do people on here do this for money I mean with Model Mayhem how do you do it? Do you pay the models or shoot (TFCD) , if so how much do you pay or do you get paid? etc.. whats the best approach..

Sorry for so many questions but really need your advise guys..

Many Thanks :)


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Feb 04, 2009 06:51 |  #2

Most newer models will shoot TFP/CD. The more experienced ones generally want to get paid. I, however, am a very experienced model and I never ask for payment. I used to do it because it was something I enjoyed. I don't model much these days. I prefer to focus on my photography.

Best bet is to try working with female friends who are comfortable with you. It helps you work on your art, and you can even do a bit of role playing so that you can get used to being a professional while shooting. Hope this helps. :)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:06 as a reply to  @ post 7251296 |  #3

I use model mayhem and do alot of TFP/TFCD shoots. Everyone I have ever met through that website has been very nice and it was always a pleasure to work with them.

Just be yourself, dont misrepresent yourself as something your not. The models profile SHOULD tell you if they are accepting TFP shoots or not. Just find some models you are interested in shooting with and send them a message. Be clear about what you need/expect from them and be clear on what you can deliver to them.

So if this would be your first photoshoot, dont be shy in expressing that. Maybe you can find a model close to your home that is willing to pose for you. I am almost sure you can.

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Feb 04, 2009 07:07 |  #4

SaraEmily wrote in post #7251350 (external link)
Most newer models will shoot TFP/CD. The more experienced ones generally want to get paid. I, however, am a very experienced model and I never ask for payment. I used to do it because it was something I enjoyed. I don't model much these days. I prefer to focus on my photography.

Best bet is to try working with female friends who are comfortable with you. It helps you work on your art, and you can even do a bit of role playing so that you can get used to being a professional while shooting. Hope this helps. :)

Thank you for your response sarah.. I will look for the "newer, in experienced models" in that case and hope they will do a photo shoot for TFCD. I really have no means to pay for their service and just want to build up a good portfolio for myself.. ;)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:17 |  #5

mkohman wrote in post #7251409 (external link)
Thank you for your response sarah.. I will look for the "newer, in experienced models" in that case and hope they will do a photo shoot for TFCD. I really have no means to pay for their service and just want to build up a good portfolio for myself.. ;)

Well all it takes is time, practice, and skill. :) Most people that I know who are photographers on MM don't really make money out of it. Most do it because they enjoy it.

I, on the other hand, would never turn my photography into my job. It would ruin it for me. :) I prefer to shoot what I want, when I want to, and how I want to. Good luck in your MM hunting. :)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:19 as a reply to  @ post 7251296 |  #6

Savone, thank you so much for your advise ;)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:21 |  #7

Just be friendly and communicate well and you should be fine.

My experiences so far are that men are slightly more reliable than female models at turning up and the reliability factor goes way up if you pay.

BTW it's spelt "advice" not advise... just had to mention that as it bugs me lol :)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:22 |  #8

Please don't post the same question across different sections. It's usually a lot better to keep all the answers in the same place.


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Feb 04, 2009 07:27 |  #9

Thanks again Sara, do you do it as a hobby then ? Also you said you do TFP/TFCD, quick question.. when you do TFP, whats in it for you? how much do you pay the model? when you do TFCD how many images do you put on the cd and is it after some editing .. also do you send the cd via post to the model or do you like have a laptop at the shoot and just burn images there and then.. ? thanks ;)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:29 |  #10

Pete wrote in post #7251459 (external link)
Please don't post the same question across different sections. It's usually a lot better to keep all the answers in the same place.

sorry it won't happen again.. was not sure where this is suited best.. thanks :)


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Feb 04, 2009 07:43 |  #11

I signed up to MM last year and I have met some great models on there... And I've already started working with some of them and have been working on getting to work with more of them... What I usually do is comment on a photo in their port, send them a message telling them who I am and where I'm from.. And I just ask them if they would like to get together sometime for a shoot... Most all of them do TFCD shoots and I have a few that are paying models.. Which I don't mind.. But I find everyone every friendly and if you're just yourself then you'll be fine....


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Feb 04, 2009 07:51 |  #12

Kiddo wrote in post #7251523 (external link)
I signed up to MM last year and I have met some great models on there... And I've already started working with some of them and have been working on getting to work with more of them... What I usually do is comment on a photo in their port, send them a message telling them who I am and where I'm from.. And I just ask them if they would like to get together sometime for a shoot... Most all of them do TFCD shoots and I have a few that are paying models.. Which I don't mind.. But I find everyone every friendly and if you're just yourself then you'll be fine....

Thanks kiddo, much appreciated.. what do you do with your images.. i mean do you catalouge them or use for your website etc.. whats in it for you? Do you earn anything out of this or is it like me just for the hobby ;) thanks ..


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Feb 04, 2009 08:00 |  #13

mkohman wrote in post #7251472 (external link)
Thanks again Sara, do you do it as a hobby then ? Also you said you do TFP/TFCD, quick question.. when you do TFP, whats in it for you? how much do you pay the model? when you do TFCD how many images do you put on the cd and is it after some editing .. also do you send the cd via post to the model or do you like have a laptop at the shoot and just burn images there and then.. ? thanks ;)

TFP = Time for Prints. Whenever I've done a TFP shoot, I let them select their favorite 5 or 6 if they want an 8x10 or favorite 20 if they want 4x6. Those numbers are negotiable, but generally that's about how many I'll give. It costs me more out of pocket to do it that way, but I lose a lot less than if I give away a CD with images... especially if she/he wants a very large print. I can sale them the print.

What's in it for me. I have model releases that say I can use them for promotional and commercial purposes. Also they can refer me to their friends.


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Feb 04, 2009 08:39 |  #14

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TFP = Time for Prints. Whenever I've done a TFP shoot, I let them select their favorite 5 or 6 if they want an 8x10 or favorite 20 if they want 4x6. Those numbers are negotiable, but generally that's about how many I'll give. It costs me more out of pocket to do it that way, but I lose a lot less than if I give away a CD with images... especially if she/he wants a very large print. I can sale them the print.

What's in it for me. I have model releases that say I can use them for promotional and commercial purposes. Also they can refer me to their friends.

Jacuff, thanks for response.. I thougt TFP meant (Time for pay) but now I know its time for print.. thats cool.. Well I guess I could do that too I guess.. In respect to the "model releases" how do you mean..? Please can you explain this a little more.. thanks..


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Feb 04, 2009 09:09 |  #15

mkohman wrote in post #7251764 (external link)
Jacuff, thanks for response.. I thougt TFP meant (Time for pay) but now I know its time for print.. thats cool.. Well I guess I could do that too I guess.. In respect to the "model releases" how do you mean..? Please can you explain this a little more.. thanks..

Model release is a brief (though it could be a lengthy) contract between you and the model that states exactly how the images can be used. It helps to protect you. When shooting people your safest bet is to always get a model release. This is especially true when the photos are more of a portrait style though it could also apply to candids.


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