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Feb 13, 2009 13:48 |  #16

I just looked at some test between the canon 10-22 and the tokina 11-16.

Heck, 1mm wider puts alot more in the image :/

Might ge the sigma after all :(


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Feb 13, 2009 14:00 |  #17

1mm is a big difference on the ultra wide end.

You really can't go wrong with either the Sig 10-20, Toke 11-16, or Canon 10-22, they are all great lenses and will open up whole new possibilities.

I'd love to try the Toke just because its f/2.8, but it would be tough to give up that 1mm. I love my Wigma (Sig 10-20), but its not an "indoor action" lens w/o flash (to be fair, I don't know if the Toke would be either)


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Feb 13, 2009 14:25 |  #18

PhatheadWRX wrote in post #7319023 (external link)
1mm is a big difference on the ultra wide end.

You really can't go wrong with either the Sig 10-20, Toke 11-16, or Canon 10-22, they are all great lenses and will open up whole new possibilities.

I'd love to try the Toke just because its f/2.8, but it would be tough to give up that 1mm. I love my Wigma (Sig 10-20), but its not an "indoor action" lens w/o flash (to be fair, I don't know if the Toke would be either)

10% difference :)


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Feb 13, 2009 19:10 |  #19

I really dont know :(


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Feb 13, 2009 19:28 |  #20

Cr4zYH3aD wrote in post #7315158 (external link)
Thanks for the suggestion !

I thought the L lenses were better in terms of IQ than the 10-20 or 10-22, that's why I asked.

Another question: is IS important ?

The Canon 10-22 and especially the Toke 11-16 can be regarded as having L grade IQ. If the toke was a canon lens it would be an L.

For wide angle IS is of limited value hence why none of the ultra-wides have IS.


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Feb 13, 2009 21:06 |  #21

Thanks.. Also, what is the cost of a cheap (normal) UV filter for those lenses ? I think it's like 77mm ?


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Feb 13, 2009 23:05 |  #22

I have the canon 10-22 and I love it.


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Feb 14, 2009 00:21 |  #23

Cr4zYH3aD wrote in post #7321288 (external link)
Thanks.. Also, what is the cost of a cheap (normal) UV filter for those lenses ? I think it's like 77mm ?

try an ebay search on 77mm UV and it will give you an idea...I use a Hoya Pro which is a bit pricey


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Feb 14, 2009 00:34 |  #24

is it the same for canon/sigma/toki


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Feb 14, 2009 00:37 |  #25

robonrome wrote in post #7322258 (external link)
try an ebay search on 77mm UV and it will give you an idea...I use a Hoya Pro which is a bit pricey

If you get a filter from an HK supplier, you can generally get a good deal. Although the Hoya Pro price difference between HK and USA are not that different, so if you're interested in the Hoya filters, go ahead and buy them from US suppliers. But if you like B+W filters, which are very good also, their prices are significantly lower on Ebay than places like B&H or Adorama. But since most of the deals will come from HK, you may have to wait a week or two for your stuff, or sometimes longer. :confused:


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Feb 14, 2009 01:53 |  #26

Cr4zYH3aD wrote in post #7322300 (external link)
is it the same for canon/sigma/toki

yep


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Feb 14, 2009 06:08 |  #27

Dear lord, don't put a CHEAP UV filter on ANY lens. If you must be of the filter protection brigade (I'm not, though I am considering adding one when shooting my daughter...she likes to grab for the lenses, especially my 35L, since I'm much closer with that lens), get a good, multicoated filter that will have minimal impact on the optical quality of the lens.


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Feb 14, 2009 07:15 |  #28

What ever you do don't cheap out on the filter. It doesn't have to be the best most expensive out there, but I would stick with a good multi-coated from one of the major names.

I'm very happy with my 17-40L, but if f4 isn't fast enough for you you might not be as happy. I use mine almost exclusively outside for landscape type stuff, so other than playing around when I first got it, I can't remember the last time it wasn't stopped down to the f8-f11 range. It will also work if you plan to go FF in the near future. I somewhat disagree with the people who say to buy for what you have now. If you know you are going FF in the near future that would factor into my decision. I know that lenses don't loose as much value over time as bodies do, but I like to think I'm in this for the long haul. I'm not made of money, and I like to try to plan for the future twists and turns my gear list may take. To me buying and selling and loosing a little bit every time isn't financially right for me. I may never go FF, but my lens choices are EF only just in case. The 17-55 f2.8L is supposed to be awesome on a crop body, but I didn't even consider it because it is an EF-S.

Anyway, enough rambling, just my $.02


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Feb 14, 2009 10:07 |  #29

I was just made the decision on UWA lens. I went with the canon because I got a good deal. From all my research you can not really go wrong, If you want to save money get the Sigma.


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Feb 15, 2009 00:52 |  #30

Alright. Ive looked for the lens at a local shop and there's what i came with:

the 17-40 f4L was 836$ but it's not IS :(

So, theres two choices:

SIGMA 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC EX

or

CANON EF-S 17-85mm F/4-5.6 IS USM


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