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Vivitar 85/1.4 - first impressions

 
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Mar 05, 2009 06:04 as a reply to  @ post 7458793 |  #46

'nuff talk; let's see some images.


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Mar 05, 2009 08:41 |  #47

Images will be posted soon. Lens is already on the way back to B&H.


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Mar 08, 2009 18:17 |  #48

gasrocks wrote in post #7459419 (external link)
Images will be posted soon. Lens is already on the way back to B&H.

Does that mean you didn't like it?


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Mar 08, 2009 18:42 |  #49

Looking at MF, price and the fact that it is not f/1.4 (more like f/1.6-1.7) and has nice but not special bokeh.....


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Mar 08, 2009 19:47 |  #50

I don't believe the images exists. It's just a myth.



  
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Mar 09, 2009 03:49 |  #51

I guess I am another member with this lens - in a different disguise. I've got it as a Samyang 85/1.4. Don't have any pictures yet, but hope to shoot some this coming weekend.


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Mar 10, 2009 21:27 |  #52

Ok, people. Here are some comparison shots that Gene (gasrocks) put together.

This is for all you doubters!

Helios 40-2 (85/1.5) @ f/1.5:

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Olympus Zuiko 85/2 @ f/2:
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CZJ Biotar 75/1.5 @ f/1.5:
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Leica 80/1.4 Summilux-R @ f/1.4:
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Jupiter 9 (85/2) @ f/2:
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Angenieux 90/1.8 @ f/1.8:
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Mamiya Sekor SX 85/1.7 @ f/1.7:
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Canon EF 85/1.8 USM @ f/1.8:
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Mar 10, 2009 21:33 |  #53

And finally....

Vivitar 85/1.4 Aspherical @ f/1.4:

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You can click on all of these and get the 100% full size shots, but IMO, the Canon is definitely the sharpest wide-open, while I'm liking the Vivitar's bokeh the best wide-open. Bokeh is purely subjective, unlike sharpness, so there will likely be varying opinions. The Summilux has a fantastic rendering of the OOF points-of-light, but the Vivitar, IMO, smooths details out better.

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Mar 10, 2009 21:49 |  #54

Tom - thanks for posting those! When you feel better perhaps a link to the other shots? Another reason I returned the Vivitar was vignetting. Doesn't really go away until f/4.


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Mar 10, 2009 22:05 |  #55

gas - was the vignetting beyond the capabilities of ACR/LR?


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Mar 10, 2009 22:14 |  #56

I really love my Swirlios but its a brick in the bag. 2lbs of glass is something I tend to take with me on a as-needed basis. I figured the Vivitar Series 1 would offer me similar or smoother bokeh in a lighter more compact package, and at an attractive pricepoint. From these test images it seems the Viv has a bulls-eye/flower specular highlight rendition but the rest of the background is just buttery. I think the specular highlights could be addressed in post quickly making this a highly effective and economical alternative to an 85L which gives bokeh this smoother (and smoother) but at 6x the price. I think I may have to take a trip to B&H next week and test this thing out.

Gas, if you had to chose between your Helios and your Biotar which would you chose?

One last question, why didn't you shoot all the lenses at the same aperature to get a side-by-side bokeh test at say f/1.8 to compare the lenses to the Canon? (other than the Zuiko and the Jupiter-9 being f/2 lenses)


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Mar 10, 2009 22:21 |  #57

The vivitar would have been good for the price, but the lack of electronic coupling to the EOS mount for auto aperture is unfortunate. Doesn't look that special unfortunately.


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Mar 10, 2009 22:50 |  #58

Nureality - But, I did shoot everything at every aperture. Tom just isn't feeling well and hasn't posted everything. Actually both the Helios 40-2 (85/1.5) and the Biotar 75/1.5 are on my "could sell" list. And the Agenieux is also on that list. Hey, I am hurting for cash and something has to go. Vignetting was not beyond the capacity of PP but indicates something about lens quality to me, in general.


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Mar 11, 2009 00:15 |  #59

gasrocks wrote in post #7499036 (external link)
Nureality - But, I did shoot everything at every aperture. Tom just isn't feeling well and hasn't posted everything. Actually both the Helios 40-2 (85/1.5) and the Biotar 75/1.5 are on my "could sell" list. And the Agenieux is also on that list. Hey, I am hurting for cash and something has to go. Vignetting was not beyond the capacity of PP but indicates something about lens quality to me, in general.

Sorry I'm so slow guys. That Summilux has to be on your keeper list, right! ;)

I'll get some more up tomorrow before noon. My jaw is hurting less (thank you Vicodin!) right now but I'm about to fall asleep.

I have to say, the Vivitar is a far better performer, sharpness-wise, on the D700, where the pixel density is much lower. Seeing Gene's samples of the EF 85/1.8 and Vivitar side-by-side makes returning the Vivitar seem pretty logical to me.


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Mar 11, 2009 00:31 |  #60

I'm interested in seeing the Vivitar @ f/1.8 to compare sharpness and bokeh at the Canon's max aperature. So I can compare the bokeh and sharpness at "par" then have the extra aperature of the Viv as a "bonus".

Gas, I guess you aren't a big fan of the "swirlios" effect? Or is this could sell list inclusion simply a matter of current finances?


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