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nakiboi
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Mar 15, 2009 21:27 |  #1

Hello, first ever post but lots of reading done. I have read lots of posts about Kruger and needing at least 300mm, but we (wife and 2yr old) are going to all of SA for 2 months.
I have a 18 55mm canon , with 40D,and want to buy another lense for this trip and for use after. I am new to this, and still shoot most things ( no portraits).
was looking at the sigma 70-200 mm 2.8. as i thought it would be good for after trip as well. Budget is about this level.
We will only be in Kruger for 1 week of the trip.
Ideas please and thank you in advance.




  
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Mar 15, 2009 21:32 |  #2

nakiboi wrote in post #7530537 (external link)
Hello, first ever post but lots of reading done. I have read lots of posts about Kruger and needing at least 300mm, but we (wife and 2yr old) are going to all of SA for 2 months.
I have a 18 55mm canon , with 40D,and want to buy another lense for this trip and for use after. I am new to this, and still shoot most things ( no portraits).
was looking at the sigma 70-200 mm 2.8. as i thought it would be good for after trip as well. Budget is about this level.
We will only be in Kruger for 1 week of the trip.
Ideas please and thank you in advance.

100-400L plus monopod. we were in mala mala last year, which borders on kruger. as well as several other reserves in botswana.

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Mar 15, 2009 21:43 |  #3

100-400 L.. it was glued to may camera in SA


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Mar 15, 2009 22:04 as a reply to  @ holland_patrick's post |  #4

Do i need "all of that lense" if only in Kruger for one week of a 2mth trip, how useful is it after?




  
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Mar 15, 2009 22:07 |  #5

nakiboi wrote in post #7530778 (external link)
Do i need "all of that lense" if only in Kruger for one week of a 2mth trip, how useful is it after?

it's one of my most used lenses but i shoot wildlife. pretty hard for me to say what you'll need after your african safari ;).

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Mar 15, 2009 22:20 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #6

how much too short is the 0-200mm going to be, friends from SA have said that the animals can come quite close.
After i think that i would be lookinga t sports and landscape photos.




  
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Mar 15, 2009 22:29 |  #7

100-400L. Some animals come quite close, but others (eg. rhino with calf) you should give respect to and stay a good distance away. Lion with cubs, Cheetah (runs fast), Leopard (stays in trees), birds (duh). You seem to be trying to talk us into agreeing with you, but you do need at least 300, ideally at least 400, and 500 is better :D

I went with 2 other shooters and we had 18-200, 70-300 and 100-400, ended up swapping the 18-200 for the UWA 10-22 and leaving it in the bag for the rest of the trip.

can is the operative word - i've had elephants too close for the 100-400L to do much but get an eyeball, but conversely, sometimes a 100-400L + 1.4x TC can be too little, too far away. You need more than 200mm unless you want your album to be full of "I would've loved to get closer" shots.


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Mar 15, 2009 22:33 |  #8

Froggeh wrote in post #7530990 (external link)
You need more than 200mm unless you want your album to be full of "I would've loved to get closer" shots.

This.


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Mar 15, 2009 22:39 |  #9

nakiboi wrote in post #7530918 (external link)
how much too short is the 0-200mm going to be, friends from SA have said that the animals can come quite close.
After i think that i would be lookinga t sports and landscape photos.

okay, it sounds like the animals aren't a big deal to you and you are more concerned about getting a lens that's more useful to you in the future.

if that's the case get the 70-200 and a 1.4 TC or the 70-300 IS. if you chose the former, you'll want to be careful installing the TC when you are out in the bush.

we went to africa specifically to photograph animals and had very strict weight limitations which made the 100-400L the best lens choice.

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Mar 15, 2009 23:33 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #10

Thank you, I am not trying to convince you, but thought this was a good lense choice for after and wanted to 'make it do'.
I will look more into the 120 to 400 range, and also the 70-20 with converter.
would you recomend renting a longer lense just for the trip? which then begs the seperate question is the sigma 70-200mm 2.8 a good lense?

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Mar 15, 2009 23:50 |  #11

Here's a review of the sigma 70-200mm here: http://www.dpreview.co​m …ews/sigma_70-200_2p8_n15/ (external link)

I have the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8II and I wouldn't really recommend it unless you have the time to send it back to the seller and exchange it if you get a bad copy. See here. I suggest you get it from Amazon if you must, their exchange policy is excellent.

Since most of your shooting is going to be outdoors where you'll have decent light, the canon 70-200mm f/4L might work. I also had this lens, but replaced it with the sigma because I needed the extra stop (f/2.8 ). In comparison, the Canon focused quicker than the Sigma and was much lighter. If I didn't need the 2.8, I would of kept the Canon.




  
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Mar 16, 2009 00:08 |  #12

nakiboi wrote in post #7531332 (external link)
Thank you, I am not trying to convince you, but thought this was a good lense choice for after and wanted to 'make it do'.
I will look more into the 120 to 400 range, and also the 70-20 with converter.
would you recomend renting a longer lense just for the trip? which then begs the seperate question is the sigma 70-200mm 2.8 a good lense?

SORRY

that would cost you a small fortune. i would buy the lens used and resell it when you return should you choose to go that route.

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Mar 16, 2009 02:11 |  #13

FWIW, I come from SA.

I arrived in NZ in April 2008 with my trusty 100-400. I traded it for a 24-70 just last week, because I just was not using it anymore. I loved the reach, especially with the smaller animals, birds, etc. You can be quite close and still not fill the frame, but at the same time, 400mm is sometimes too long. You could also look at the Sigma 50-500, as this also complements your existing 18-55 and has 100 bonus mm.

Take a flit to www.outdoorphoto.co.za and look at the galleries and join (free) to get advice from the locals. they are a very helpful and enthusiastic bunch of guys and gals.


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Mar 16, 2009 04:26 as a reply to  @ Matatazela's post |  #14

Thanks Matatazela,
I will go and look now.




  
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Mar 16, 2009 09:02 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #7530804 (external link)
it's one of my most used lenses but i shoot wildlife. pretty hard for me to say what you'll need after your african safari ;).

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